[Vision2020] Satanism Was: Of, By

Sam Scripter moscowsam at verizon.net
Sun Mar 16 00:59:01 PDT 2008


Thank you very much, Paul.

Very well expressed. I agree and was pleased to
read your words.

Rhetorically, Can't we just all get along and leave
each other to our individual beliefs, without having
to be converted to some other's beliefs, without
trying to convert others to ours?

Can't we quit beating all this to death and move
on to other truly "Vision2020" themes?

MoscowSam

Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> I would like to split what you are saying into two separate subjects, 
> because I have a different response for each.  The two subjects are 
> Church and State, and Overly Aggressive Political Correctness.
>
> I can sympathize with the people who wish to take "Under God" out of the 
> Pledge.  If it was simply the original wording from way back when, it 
> wouldn't really be a problem.  However, it was placed there relatively 
> recently (1940's?).  I think that was a mistake and should probably be 
> rectified.  Like Chas, though, I don't consider it worth the effort.  I 
> also don't care much about the "In God We Trust" on the currency.  It 
> would spend the same way if it said "In Allah We Trust" or "In Big Juju 
> We Trust".  The thing that kills me about this topic is that if 
> Christianity was a minority religion and some other religion was being 
> favored in our classrooms and on our currency, they would all be up in 
> arms.  That's the reason Church and State need to be separated.
>
> On the topic of political correctness, I can agree.  Although I 
> celebrate the Winter Solstice with probably the same amount of fervor as 
> your average Christian celebrates Christmas, I don't care much if 
> someone say "Merry Christmas" to me.  I take it in the spirit it was 
> given.  If someone wishes me a happy Kwanzaa, I'll take it the same way.
>
> I also don't think the idea is to weed God out of our daily lives.  Just 
> let the government stay neutral.  Protecting the rights of citizens to 
> worship as they wish was one of the major driving forces of the founding 
> of this country.  Keeping the government neutral was meant to help that, 
> not hinder it. 
>
> Paul
>
> Donovan Arnold wrote:
>   
>> Satan's greatest trick was to convince people that he doesn't exist. I 
>> think Satanism, is, for the most part, the same as Atheism.
>>  
>> What Satan wants is to remove God, all things related to him, and in 
>> our daily thoughts completely. To make us about ourselves, and the 
>> world we live in.
>>  
>> Atheists are best at doing this. They have made God very unpopular in 
>> this country. You cannot even say, "Merry Christmas" without 
>> subjecting yourself to a potential lawsuit.
>>  
>> Separation of Church from State was designed to protect our religion 
>> from being indoctrinated and controlled by the government, not to weed 
>> God out of our daily lives and thinking, which is what is happening, 
>> sadly, all over this country, and you can see the negative impact it 
>> is having.
>>  
>> Best Regards,
>>  
>> Donovan
>>
>> */Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>     > Also, you may want to read up on modern-day Satanists. I know a
>>     couple
>>     > of them. There is a big difference between LaVey Satanism and the
>>     > mostly-non-existent Luciferian Satanism portrayed in bad B
>>     movies. It's
>>     > not my cup of tea, but it has some aspects to it that I can respect.
>>
>>     I've known several Satanists, and most of them were just atheists with
>>     a peculiar sense of humor, combined with a desire to shock. None of
>>     them were the B movies types.
>>
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