[Vision2020] 65 acre feet of water equals $2 million of food

[Garrett Clevenger]

I'm glad g is a key recycler.  That certainly
indicates he isn't all bad.  I'm also glad he can take
(and give) a joke like the best of us.  While we may
not see keyhole to keyhole on every issue, I don't
have any reason to not let him duplicate my keys.  He
reminds me of some people in my family, so in some
sense, g could be like Uncle Bob.

I don't think I'll be putting any of our exchanges to
music (I'm not sure what key it would be in) as I
agree that may not be best for the community, because
words can carry more weight then the letters imply...

So to insure civility on v2020, I hope any words I
write do not have any long term effects in a negative
way. Mostly I like to joke around and have fun, so I
often take serious issues and add in cynical sarcasm. 
Anyone who may be offended, please consider that none
if it is intended to be personal.  It's often hard to
see the real people through the computer screen.

Take key,

gclev


--- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Whoa, whoa, WHOA! How's about we cheese it with the
> key to my heart eyewash. The next thing I know
> you'll be degenerating our disagreement into
> doggerel ala the oil, toil, goyl debacle and setting
> it to ear piercing, mind numbing music. Exactly the
> sort of thing the new noise ordinance was designed
> to prevent. Wouldn't it be ironic if the initial
> citation was yours? For the sake of my, the
> communities, and humanities collective aural sanity,
> please stop now.
> 
> Yours for hope and change,
> g
> 
> P.S. I've been recycling keys since you were in
> middle school. The likelihood of your coming up with
> any that might possibly compromise the security of
> ANY of my internal organs is vanishingly small. Go
> with the string. I'm tellin ya it's a wide open
> category with growth potential. Can you do it? YES
> YOU CAN!
> 
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; "vision
> 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 65 acre feet of water
> equals $2 million of food
> 
> 
> >g writes:
> > 
> > "I don't see the problem with an end user
> reselling
> > water provided by our city at a profit. It happens
> all
> > the time."
> > 
> > 
> > Hawkins is not "reselling water provided by our
> city
> > at a profit."  The city will not profit from the
> water
> > it sells Hawkins.  While you meant that Hawkins
> will
> > profit from the water it sells, the main
> difference
> > here is that the city has guaranteed an out of
> state
> > developer 1% of Moscow's water.  No body else has
> this
> > guarantee.  If this were in Moscow, at least
> Moscow
> > would be getting the tax from that profit, but
> > instead, Whitman County gets it.
> > 
> > 
> > g writes:
> > 
> > "I think that you are trying awfully hard to find
> > reasons to be upset
> > about a development that most folks in Latah and
> > Whitman county are just fine with."
> > 
> > 
> > Just because most people may be complacent about
> > Hawkins doesn't make it right.  You can interpret
> > things the way you want, but that doesn't mean the
> > arguments against Hawkins are hard to find.  In
> fact,
> > they seem fairly apparent to me, but I just see
> things
> > differently then you.
> > 
> > I don't think I would ever convince you of the
> need to
> > plan our water use wisely, or how we subsidize
> growth
> > in another state.  Some people think every thing
> will
> > always be peachy keen, so why limit our right to
> grow
> > forever?
> > 
> > But for the people who are able to see clearly, I
> > believe they understand the negative consequence
> of
> > Hawkins.
> > 
> > 
> > g writes:
> > 
> > "It's good to have a hobby but the one you have
> chosen
> > seems a trifle 
> > useless. Perhaps you could take up recycling
> string
> > (not twine) into
> > the worlds largest ball. The record for this feat
> > seems to be up in the air and I just KNOW you
> could be
> > a contender."
> > 
> > 
> > While this may be funny, it just goes to show what
> > sort of person you are in trying to belittle me,
> my
> > passion about insuring a sustainable future, and
> my
> > desire to engage the reasonable people on this
> list.
> > 
> > But to go along with your joke, I think I would
> > recycle keys, stringing them all together. 
> Perhaps
> > one of those keys would be for your heart and you
> > would see how ridiculous it is to belittle those
> who
> > are just trying to prevent what too many other
> areas
> > on this planet are experiencing.  While it may be
> > useless, it's better than remaining apathetic.
> > 
> > gclev
> > 
> > 
> > --- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> I don't see the problem with an end user
> reselling
> >> water provided by our 
> >> city at a profit. It happens all the time. Were I
> to
> >> run my tap into some 
> >> pretty light blue bottles and slap on a label
> that
> >> read "Aqua de Mosque" and 
> >> retail it to the gullible at fashionable coop
> type
> >> stores, what would be the 
> >> problem?
> >> 
> >> Beer producers take municipal water and add some
> >> barley and hops and people 
> >> like me beat a path to their door.
> >> 
> >> Bartenders mix a little scotch or bourbon with
> water
> >> and sell it at a fairly 
> >> exorbitant markup.
> >> 
> >> The guy that maintains my yard mixes fertilizer
> and
> >> pesticide with water and 
> >> sprays it onto my yard a couple times a year and
> I
> >> gladly pay for the 
> >> privilege.
> >> 
> >> I think that you are trying awfully hard to find
> >> reasons to be upset about a 
> >> development that most folks in Latah and Whitman
> >> county are just fine with. 
> >> It's good to have a hobby but the one you have
> >> chosen seems a trifle 
> >> useless. Perhaps you could take up recycling
> string
> >> (not twine) into the 
> >> worlds largest ball. The record for this feat
> seems
> >> to be up in the air and 
> >> I just KNOW you could be a contender.
> >> 
> >> g
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
> >> To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:04 PM
> >> Subject: [Vision2020] 65 acre feet of water
> equals
> >> $2 million of food
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Pat writes:
> >> >
> >> > "So you weren't at the meeting last night or
> heard
> >> any
> >> > of the
> >> > explainations for the vote?? Too bad you might
> >> have
> >> > learned some things."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure why Pat writes this as my post had
> >> > nothing to do with an explanation for the vote.
> 
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