[Vision2020] Religion of "Global Warmers" Church's New Sermon
Kai Eiselein, Editor
editor at lataheagle.com
Wed Jun 25 08:37:33 PDT 2008
I'm afraid it doesn't take a PhD to figure out that a large amount of warming is directly related to a geographic area on the eastern side of the US. This area is highly populated with blowhards, buffoons, liars and lawyers; all of whom emit noxious and overheated gasses at a pace Nature cannot deal with.
Hot Air Central: Washington D.C.
From: keely emerinemix
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:46 PM
To: g. crabtree ; Scott Dredge ; vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religion of "Global Warmers" Church's New Sermon
I believe it's "toe," not "tote," the party line, as the Right-Mind article stated.
I'm no scientist, but something's causing wild temperature fluctuations and the melting of glaciers and polar ice caps, and it seems even the conservatives can't blame it on homosexual marriage . . .
Keely
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From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: sdredge at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:52:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religion of "Global Warmers" Church's New Sermon
You bore them with silly anthropogenic global warming scare stories till their ions get angry and leave. Often they will hook up with an odd number of negative electrons and form radical gangs that are often very reactive and unstable.
g
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From: Scott Dredge
To: vision 2020
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religion of "Global Warmers" Church's New Sermon
"Fourth, they censor and deionize anyone who doesn’t tote the party line."
How do you deionize someone?
-Scott
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From: g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
To: Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>; vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:04:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religion of "Global Warmers" Church's New Sermon
Seems only fair that the right-mind response be reprinted here:
Religion of "Global Warmers" Church's New Sermon
Ted Moffett has taken me to task yet again for my comments that Global Warming is a fundamentalist religion.
This is climate science, not religion, for those who understand the difference. Subject heading tongue in cheek alert for right-mind.us readers, and other deniers of the scientific consensus among the global climate science community regarding anthropogenic climate change.
Yet again we have more examples of the anthropogenic warming crowd acting like fundamentalists. Evidence after evidence demonstrates that they have wrongly interpreted the data, yet they tenaciously hold to their faith-based assumptions.
First, I’m not too sure how old Ted is. But I’m old enough to remember the scientific consensus in the 70’s about the “Coming Ice Age”. As history has well demonstrated, having a consensus of scientists on your side doesn’t prove anything.
Second, there are a lot of scientists who flatly disagree with anthropogenic global warming. 31,072 American Scientists have publicly signed a petition denying anthropogenic global warming. There are 228 from Idaho and 603 from Washington that have signed; and 9,021 with PhD’s. Over 500 scientists published studies countering global warming fears. That’s not a small dissent. That’s a group who is being vilified because they disagree with Moffett’s theory. And that’s a fundamentalist response, not a scientific one.
Third, to demonstrate causality they have to disprove all other theories (sunspots causing global warming on Mars, Pluto, Triton). Space.com reports that Mars is emerging from an ice age. Unless Moffett thinks that Martians are driving too many SUVs around, then there has to be another explanation. And why doesn’t that explanation work for the earth and only for Mars/Pluto/Triton/etc?
There is a ton of evidence that the religion of global warming conveniently ignores. Since the global warming alarmists are unable to disprove alternative theories, they ignore them or vilify them. Convenient. And quite the fundamentalist approach.
Fourth, they censor and deionize anyone who doesn’t tote the party line. It’s funny how “only real scientists agree with us.” That’s a convenient fundamentalist bate-and-switch tactic. “Only our religion is the true one.”
For the record, Ted, it wasn’t I who came up with the analogy of global warming as a fundamentalist religion. It was Michael Crichton in a speech delivered in 2003.
John Brignell compares the religion of global warming and the medieval Roman Catholic Church (especially in dealing with that heretic/denier Galileo). Brignell notes many of the glaring similarities. As I’ve posted before:
a.. Faith and scepticism: “the science of global warming is settled”, as if science were ever settled.
b.. Sin and absolution: the sin is your carbon footprint. The indulgence being sold is for “carbon offsets”.
c.. Proselytes and evangelists: the global warming crowd are more evangelistic to their cause than any Mormon missionary or Jehovah’s Witness door-knocker.
d.. Demagogues and hypocrites: Al Gore is the classic example. He chastises everyone for their carbon wastefulness while himself flying all over the world and heating all of his mansions.
e.. Infidels and apostates: anyone who questions anthropogenic global warming is a “Denier” — as bad as a Holocaust Denier. Heaven forbid someone change his mind on global warming. He would be an apostate.
f.. Prophecy and divination: “huge and generously funded university and government departments do nothing but develop computer models, involving assumptions about physical interactions that are still not understood by science. Their dubious (to say the least) results are used by the new international priesthood to frighten the people into conformity.” This goes back to statements like “the science of global warming is settled.”
g.. Puritans and killjoys: As Mencken said, Puritans have “the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.” The church of global warming offers nothing in the way of improvement or even maintenance of the human condition. It’s as if they wanted us all to become desert hermits — flagellants coercing us into conformity.
h.. Censorship and angles: “If you think you have a good case, you can afford to present both sides, but they don’t. The great majority of the population have no idea that there is an alternative view. That is not science, it is religion.” In Moffett’s case, everything that would be a counter-example to his faith is dismissed as an anomaly. Everything that confirms his faith is a fact. That is not science. That’s fundamentalism.
i.. Control and taxation: People now accept laws that restrict their liberty and standard of living, which would once have provoked riots, because they are cloaked in a quasi-religious formula of global warming.
j.. Contradictions and irrationality: for instance, “The EU, for example, gratuitously destroys a tiny industry making traditional barometers, on the grounds of an irrational fear of mercury, then imposes the use of fluorescent light bulbs that distribute that same dreaded substance in huge quantities across the continent, all on the basis of the threat of global warming.”
k.. Wealth and power: “What passed as scientific research a quarter of a century ago now barely exists. To get funding, your project has to conform to one of the mantra descriptions, such as “sustainable development”. Doubters are afraid to speak out. Their institutions are dependent on millions in grants at the disposal of green officials to obtain “appropriate” results relevant to global warming and related scares. When your institution is involved in a fight for survival, you do not rock the boat.”
l.. Confession and salvation: “Young children now have nightmares about the burning planet, just as some of us once had nightmares about burning in hell unless we believed, and then lay awake at night wondering whether we believed or not, or what “believe” actually means. The ruthless exploitation of the receptivity of the young, and their relentless indoctrination, is one of the less pleasant characteristics of much of religion.” “One of the most offensive manifestations of the new religion occurred when hundreds of the priesthood went on one of their lavish junkets in Africa, where all around them was suffering and death.”
m.. Envoi: “Extremists of the new religion regard humanity as an inconvenience or a pestilence that can be disposed of (not including themselves, of course).”
Moffett’s religion even has its own pope (Al Gore).
2008-06-22 10:58 by Right-Mind to Right Mind
Filed under: Global Warming
Well put. Thanks, Dale.
g
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From: Ted Moffett
To: vision 2020
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Religion of "Global Warmers" Church's New Sermon
This is climate science, not religion, for those who understand the difference. Subject heading tongue in cheek alert for right-mind.us readers, and other deniers of the scientific consensus among the global climate science community regarding anthropogenic climate change:
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080619_climatereport.html
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/images/climatetable.jpg
http://www.climatescience.gov/
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Scientific Assessment Captures Effects of a Changing Climate on Extreme Weather Events in North America
June 19, 2008
Global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases, according to the report. Many types of extreme weather and climate event changes have been observed during this time period and continued changes are projected for this century. Specific future projections include:
a.. Abnormally hot days and nights, along with heat waves, are very likely to become more common. Cold nights are very likely to become less common.
b.. Sea ice extent is expected to continue to decrease and may even disappear in the Arctic Ocean in summer in coming decades.
c.. Precipitation, on average, is likely to be less frequent but more intense.
d.. Droughts are likely to become more frequent and severe in some regions.
e.. Hurricanes will likely have increased precipitation and wind.
f.. The strongest cold-season storms in the Atlantic and Pacific are likely to produce stronger winds and higher extreme wave heights.
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