[Vision2020] Gitmo

[Chasuk]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 21:47, Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> No, it wasn't an invasion. It was an attack. Just like Pearl Harbor was an
> attack. How many people that attacked Pearl Harbor or planned the attack,
> got sympathies and access to Civil Courts in the United States?

Peral Harbor was an invasion, clear and simple.  It isn't arguable,
though you will probably try.

> Andreas, what happened to the rights of all the dead people and their
> families that were killed on the 9/11? How about those people forced to jump
> from a 100 story building to their death because of actions by the
> terrorists your sympathize with? How about the rights of the people that
> were alive with their flesh burnt off as they slowly wait for their death
> after the 9/11 attack, they have no rights? What happened to their rights,
> Andreas? I don't see you squawking about the children left without a mother
> or fathers because of these terrorists? Do they get to appeal three, six,
> eight times, the judgment rendered against them by this monsters? You
> show no outcry for them. You show more concern and empathy for the 170
> terrorists that killed our people, then for the sick injustice done against
> their victims. Why is that exactly, Andreas?

How does all of this emotive language help your argument?  A group of
terrorists attacked our nation.  We weren't invaded.  We responded by
invading a nation that was not involved in the attack.  Since that
time, to use your shameful, morally bankrupt language, hundreds of
thousands of innocent Iraqis have died.  They have died, women and
children, by having their flesh seared off, in horrific explosions,
from starvation, following brutal rapes by our soldiers, or after
months of hideous torture.  What happened to their rights?  While that
is an emotive, interesting question, it hasn't nothing to do with the
actual subject of this conversation.  You show more concern for
winning an argument than with investigating the truth.  Why is that
exactly, Donovan?