[Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention

[Tom Ivie]

This was the topic of a family discussion this weekend. One argument I heard was that you have to define "war" in the Constitution.  The argument was that the Constitution refers to war between the U.S. and another country, not individuals and not groups. Though I haven't verified this by any means. The family member went on to say that the U.S. never went to war with Afghanistan. Afghanistan is where many of the detainees were captured. If this is the case, are they really prisoners of war?  

Tom & Liz Ivie

--- On Mon, 6/16/08, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 3:09 PM

Most of these people were captured on the battlefield and a more appropriately
should be treated as prisoners of war. This is entirety different from criminal
offenses that occur within the US. No nation that I know of has released
prisoners of war while the war is in progress. If any of theses detainee are US
citizens and were aressed within the US, they might legitimately be subject to
the US judical system.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:02:36 -0700
To: Chasuk chasuk at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention

> Chas,
>    
>   They were not deprived of due process of law. They were tried, and found
guilty before they are sent and locked up in Gitmo. The reason they are not
tried in American Civilian Courts is because they are not US Citizens and
because if they were it would expose US classified information which would put
US soldiers and possibly civilians at risk. 
>    
>   Best Regards,
>    
>   Donovan
> 
> Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>   On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:59, Donovan Arnold
> wrote:
> 
> > Maybe we should create an "Adopt a Detainee" program. Those
that think they
> > are innocent detainees can line up and open their homes to people
considered
> > to be unfairly detained at Gitmo. If they really believe that these
people
> > are innocent, and they are released, it would be unfair to send them
back to
> > their home country to be killed, right?
> 
> I don't have any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the Gitmo
> detainees, so I won't be inviting them into my house, thank you.
> However, that doesn't mean that I believe they should have been
> deprived of the due process of law, which is the real subject here.
> 
> Chas
> 
> 
>        
> 

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