<table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' background='none' style='font-family:arial;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);width:100%;'><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'>This was the topic of a family discussion this weekend. One argument I heard was that you have to define "war" in the Constitution. The argument was that the Constitution refers to war between the U.S. and another country, not individuals and not groups. Though I haven't verified this by any means. The family member went on to say that the U.S. never went to war with Afghanistan. Afghanistan is where many of the detainees were captured. If this is the case, are they really prisoners of war? <br><br>Tom & Liz Ivie<br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 6/16/08, lfalen <i><lfalen@turbonet.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: lfalen
<lfalen@turbonet.com><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention<br>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>, "Chasuk" <chasuk@gmail.com><br>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 3:09 PM<br><br><pre>Most of these people were captured on the battlefield and a more appropriately<br>should be treated as prisoners of war. This is entirety different from criminal<br>offenses that occur within the US. No nation that I know of has released<br>prisoners of war while the war is in progress. If any of theses detainee are US<br>citizens and were aressed within the US, they might legitimately be subject to<br>the US judical system.<br>Roger<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:02:36 -0700<br>To: Chasuk chasuk@gmail.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention<br><br>> Chas,<br>>
<br>> They were not deprived of due process of law. They were tried, and found<br>guilty before they are sent and locked up in Gitmo. The reason they are not<br>tried in American Civilian Courts is because they are not US Citizens and<br>because if they were it would expose US classified information which would put<br>US soldiers and possibly civilians at risk. <br>> <br>> Best Regards,<br>> <br>> Donovan<br>> <br>> Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:59, Donovan Arnold<br>> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Maybe we should create an "Adopt a Detainee" program. Those<br>that think they<br>> > are innocent detainees can line up and open their homes to people<br>considered<br>> > to be unfairly detained at Gitmo. If they really believe that these<br>people<br>> > are innocent, and they are released, it would be unfair to send them<br>back to<br>> > their home
country to be killed, right?<br>> <br>> I don't have any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the Gitmo<br>> detainees, so I won't be inviting them into my house, thank you.<br>> However, that doesn't mean that I believe they should have been<br>> deprived of the due process of law, which is the real subject here.<br>> <br>> Chas<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br><br>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> http://www.fsr.net <br> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>=======================================================</pre></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>