[Vision2020] Say What?
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Thu Jul 31 12:47:21 PDT 2008
Likewise, let's not lump all evangelical Christians with Bryan Fischer. Or with me, for that matter! I'd like to think I represent accurately, and with his character, the teachings of Christ, but I've found that He's more than able to transcend and defeat those who claim His name and yet say and do things not in keeping with His life.
Keely
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:56:36 -0700
> From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> To: sdredge at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>
> I don't think that one should lump all conservatives in with Bryan Fischer. That is the fundamentalist religious side. A lot of conservative are libertarian is social outlook.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Scott Dredge sdredge at yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:45:51 -0700
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>
> > Glenn Beck is OK, at least he puts a lot very good humor into his shows. I think what turns me off about most of these right wingers is that they preach a lot of conservative rhetoric, but rarely follow it themselves. Glenn Beck is on his second marriage and is against divorce. He believes that no-fault divorce should be revoked and that will decrease the number of divorces as if in America - or anywhere else for that matter - some truth could be determined by some judge or jury about which of two feuding spouses is really to blame and how to fairly remedy this contentious situation and by some miracle prevent the divorce.
> >
> > Rush Limbaugh is a three time loser at marriage but won't discuss this on air because 'it's a personal issue'. What's his stance on same-sex marriage? If he's really a true conservative he would claim that he has the right to marry and divorce an unlimited number of times and that same sex couples should be denied the same right. Then there is the whole controversy about abuse of prescription drugs. Choice? Addiction? Whatever the case, I'm sure his situation is a completely different scenario to him than the rotten stinking drug abusers who are ruining America and who should be locked away.
> >
> > Is Laura Ingraham even considered conservative anymore? To my knowledge she's unmarried and very recently adopted a 3 year old Guatamalan child because she had an uncontrollable urge to be a mother. What's her stance on adoptions for same-sex couples? Again, if she were a conservative she would be towing the same line as Bryan Fischer of the Idaho Values Alliance that 'the best environment for children is with a mother and a father' as if that's some sort of sensible reason to penalize every other family which - for whatever reason - is lacking both a mother and a father. I don't know what her stance is on this. She used to say very inflamatory things about homosexuals until she found out that her brother was gay and she has since softened her stance.
> >
> > I don't get it Roger, do all these folks simply lack empathy until they find themselves in a similar situation yet still don't understand that the world isn't always just made up of 1's and 0's and that things are overly complicated enough that there isn't just a 'one size fits all' solution complicated societal issues?
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > To: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:15:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Thanks for the info.
> > I only occasionally listen to Savage. He is on KQQQ at 4:00., which I listen to in the car. I only hear Rush in the car also. I listen to Glenn Beck and Laura Ingrahamm in the morning. I sometimes listen to Hannity. I fine Savage to be obnoxious and treats his listeners badly. Rush is too egotistical for me ( an act I realize). I like Laura Ingrahamm and Hannity. They are respectful of their guests. I have never listened to O'Reilly so have no opinion on him.
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Scott Dredge sdredge at yahoo.com
> > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:40:39 -0700
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> >
> > > Roger,
> > >
> > > I'm guessing you don't listen to Savage much - if at all. He rips into everyone including his listeners who phone in. He's also a master of hyperbole and ad hominem attacks and could come up something better than Michael 'whiner' if he were to attack himself in some alternate universe. Hush Bimbo is his reference to Rush Limbaugh. The Leprechaun is Bill O'Reilly who is Irish. Wallbanger is Sean Hannity who apparently is a former dry wall installer. He refers to all them as shills for the Republican party which is an opinion I happen to agree with and why I can't take much of Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Hannity.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > > To: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:22:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > I don't think he ever left the air, although Media Matters is trying to get him off. Pardon my ignorance but I don't know who Walbanger and the Leprechaun are. I assume Hush Bimbo is Rush Limbaugh. I have heard people refer to the Leprechaun but don't know who they are talking about. Please enlighten me.
> > > Roger
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: Scott Dredge sdredge at yahoo.com
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:38:41 -0700
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > >
> > > > I find Michael Savage to be quite entertaining unlike pro-wrestling. And as far as fire breathing right-wing talk radio goes, he's magnitudes better than Hush Bimbo, Wallbanger, and the Leprechaun. With God's will and your listenership he'll be back on the air tomorrow bashing the left wing vermin who are destroying America.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
> > > > To: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>; Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> > > > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:15:46 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I think his name might rhyme with "whiner". . .
> > > >
> > > > Kind of interesting that he would choose "Savage" as his professional name. . . it kind of reminds me of pro-wrestling. Loud, obnoxious, phony and not to be taken seriously.
> > > >
> > > > Ellen A. Roskovich
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:30:40 -0700
> > > > > From: chasuk at gmail.com
> > > > > To: suehovey at moscow.com
> > > > > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 17:33, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Savage is just, well, Savage.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Not exactly. Savage is just, well, Weiner. That's his birthname.
> > > > > Michael Alan Weiner. No wonder he is so damaged. Can you imagine the
> > > > > bullying that poor little Weiner suffered in school?
> > > > >
> > > > > Chas
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