[Vision2020] One Lawyer With a Spine

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Mon Jul 21 14:59:57 PDT 2008


Nick
As I have said before, I am on the fence on water boarding. I am just saying that there is a difference between physical and physiological interrogation method. At the very least some of those methods mentioned by Chas should be acceptable.
Roger
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From: "Gier, Nicholas" NGIER at uidaho.edu
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:51:33 -0700
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] One Lawyer With a Spine

> Roger,
>  
> A CIA agent sent to Gitmo early on estimated that at least one third of those imprisoned there did not belong there.  That number has now been verified by reproters from the McClatchey newspapers.  (I've summarized the results at www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/mcclatchey.htm <https://www.mail.uidaho.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/mcclatchey.htm> .) That much error is simply not acceptable.  Yes, you are right, treatment of prisoners has improved, but that it is simply irrelevant if the people shouldn't have been there in the first place.
>  
> With regard to water boarding: we prosecuted our own troops as early as the Spanish American War doing this and we tried Japanese officials for doing it in WWII.  I find your distinction between physical and psychological torture in this case to be totally irresponsible and insensitive.  It is crime and it is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions.
>  
> Still waiting for you to come clean on this.
>  
> Nick
> 
> 



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