[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: How Could Anyone Support That Woman?

[Sue Hovey]

Yes, I guess if one can put aside Ron Paul's racism, and sexism he just 
might be a viable candidate, he is only a self-proclaimed Libertarian--but 
he's such a looney.

Sue
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: How Could Anyone Support That Woman?


> keely emerinemix wrote:
>> Oh, yeah.  Ron Paul.  Sorry, but it's not enough to be opposed to the
>> war in Iraq.  I'm not a Libertarian and don't believe there's such a
>> thing as Christian Libertarian, and so Ron and I will have to agree to
>> disagree.  In all seriousness, though, it bothers me how undiscerning
>> his supporters are.  Many are true, free-market Libertarians; most, it
>> seems, are just contrarians, rabid anti-Iraq'ers whose blinders are
>> tightly screwed on, or the grossly ignorant who think that secular
>> Libertarianism looks enough like affluent anglo male Christian
>> dominion to warrant their support.
>>
>> Keely
>>
>
>
> I was drawn to Ron Paul because of his opposition to the removal of our
> various freedoms that has happened in the last eight years, and more.
> That's in addition to his opposition to the war, of course.  I'm talking
> about Gitmo, the secret CIA "hostels" overseas, the Patriot Acts,
> extraordinary rendition, the argument that waterboarding is not torture,
> pissing on habeas corpus, illegal wiretapping, military tribunals
> instead of actual trials, no-fly lists, "signing statements", denying
> documents to the 9/11 commission, monitoring of religious and political
> institutions without suspecting criminal activity, and others that I
> can't even remember at the moment.
>
> Yes, I think many of his ideas are sheer lunacy.  However, I fully
> believe that we as citizens of this country are in a war with our
> overlords.  We need to put our foot down and remind these bozos in
> office who works for who.  Ron Paul seems to agree with me, so I'm
> interested in him as a candidate.  I still don't know if I'd vote for
> him, though.  It would depend on who he's up against and how likely I
> think it is that his more whacko ideas would get traction if he was 
> elected.
>
> I'm just making the point that I don't have my blinders tightly screwed
> on, I can see clearly the bad side as well as the good.  Whether I'm
> grossly ignorant, though, I couldn't tell you. I doubt I'd know if I was.
>
> Paul
>
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