[Vision2020] How Could Anyone Support That Woman?

Fri Jan 25 13:01:24 PST 2008

Believe me, I'm not a "wild-about-Hillary" type at all.  I think I would have liked her very much about 30 years ago, when she hadn't met Bill, and THAT Hillary would likely have grown up to be a formidable candidate -- intelligent, caring, strong, but without the taint o' slime from her man.  

Still, the thought of McCain affirming that we could be in Iraq for another several decades, the loose cannon that is Giuliani, Huckabee's grinning mouthful of Religious Right American Pie, and Romney's oozing schmoozefest -- there's not a one of 'em I could vote for.  And I'm a Democrat, so quite naturally I gravitate toward Edwards, who of the three left is the most "essentially Democratic" in his social and foreign policies.  He won't win, though, so I will gladly support Obama, with whom I agree on almost everything, and for whom I'd work as hard as I could.  I was very impressed with Richardson, and my prediction is that Obama/Richardson will be the Democrats' ticket come November.

Oh, yeah.  Ron Paul.  Sorry, but it's not enough to be opposed to the war in Iraq.  I'm not a Libertarian and don't believe there's such a thing as Christian Libertarian, and so Ron and I will have to agree to disagree.  In all seriousness, though, it bothers me how undiscerning his supporters are.  Many are true, free-market Libertarians; most, it seems, are just contrarians, rabid anti-Iraq'ers whose blinders are tightly screwed on, or the grossly ignorant who think that secular Libertarianism looks enough like affluent anglo male Christian dominion to warrant their support.

Keely

From: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:44:00 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] How Could Anyone Support That Woman?

Keely,

My feelings about Hillary Rodham Clinton have nothing to do with her gender.  If she's the nominee I may yet force myself to vote for her, but it will be hard.  Her continuing position on the Iraq war, her vote for Kyl-Lieberman are just two of the problems I have with her. 

Sunil

From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
To: debismith at moscow.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:07:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] How Could Anyone Support That Woman?

I can't help but wonder if much of the vitriol against the candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton (do we call her H-ROD C now, Dale?) has to do not with THAT woman, but that WOMAN.

I am not a big fan of Hillary Clinton, and I wouldn't support anyone just because she was a woman, but if she is the nominee, I'll proudly vote for THAT WOMAN over THAT REPUBLICAN, all of whose ideas seem utterly tired and not at all helpful to the poor.

Keely

From: debismith at moscow.com
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:53:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] How Could Anyone Support That Woman?

Question. 
Donovan, is there anyone you have, in the 
past, supported whom you currently support, anywhere, for any reason, and 
why? Is there an agenda or position in which you truly believe? How did you get 
there and why are you still there?

I have seen you support something, then do a 
complete turnaround in a short period of time. I have registered your 
disapproval and watched that morph into approval for the same stance you were 
ranting against 2 months ago. I understand (and approve of) people changing 
their minds given new info, but have yet to see you stand, longterm and over 
rough roads, for anything that doesn't personally impact you or the people with 
whom you personally hold a stake.

 I am sure, given that you are a caring 
person, there must be something for which you will stand in any situation. 
What is it? Do you have a defining personal committment? Just asking, no need to 
answer if you choose not to do so.

Debi R-S

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Donovan Arnold 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:26 
  PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] How Could Anyone 
  Support That Woman?

  Honestly!

  I use to support her. But, after having to listen to her and her husband, 
  I am thoroughly disgusted! I cannot stand her anymore. She and her husband 
  have turned me off to the point that I will vote for any other candidate 
  running, Obama, Edwards, Romney, McCain, Huckabee, Gravel, or anyone else she 
  wants to drag into the muddy where she feels well at home.

  If there was ANY doubt in my mind that this woman would drop an 
  A-Bomb on preschool children to be president, she has erased that remaining 
  doubt. 

  This couple will screw anybody over, including each other, to maintain 
  and have power. 

  I can tell you, Hillary has motivated me to vote again, and it is gonna 
  be for her strongest challenger at every point. She is a nasty, nasty, 
  mean, evil wicked woman with ZERO morals or sense of right and wrong, she 
  is all about her, and only her. I think she is a total fake, a fraud, and 
  totally undeserving of any position of authority. And I really wish someone 
  would do a special on all her multimillion dollar plastic surgery. Nothing 
  about this woman is real except her deception. I cannot believe I actually 
  followed this woman, and wanted her to be president. Yuck, how could I be so 
  stupid. Her true colors are coming out. 

  Best Regards,

  Donovan Arnold

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