[Vision2020] Banned From Church

[Paul Rumelhart]

The government shouldn't make any distinction based
upon religion.  It should just tax the property
owners, whoever they are.  

In my opinion.

Paul

--- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Ken,
>    
>   I think enforcing the law and maintaining social
> order on the basis of what they paid in taxes would
> be a detriment to society, and would most likely
> promote and create a vigilante sort of justice to
> save on government fees and taxes. It would also
> create huge injustices in law enforcement. 
>    
>   If you want to debate if churches should get a tax
> break or not that would be an interesting debate. 
>    
>   My personal objection with taxes being levied
> against churches is that when a government can tax a
> church, it is also being given the power to shut it
> down at the same time , which is a violation of the
> First Amendment rights. IMHO, the government gets
> enough money as it is. It would be nice to have one
> place inside our borders where its greedy fingers
> don't get into your wallet.
>    
>   The church goers pay taxes through the nose
> already. Adding another tax for them to support
> where the state is not suppose to be involved is not
> called for in my opinion. 
>    
>   Best Regards,
>    
>   Donovan 
>    
>   
> 
> Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>   On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:48, Tom Hansen
> wrote:
> > Cops arrest and handcuff little old lady banned
> from church because she
> > didn't like the pastor.
> 
> > On a quiet Sunday morning in June, as worshippers
> settled into the pews at
> > Allen Baptist Church in southwestern Michigan,
> Pastor Jason Burrick 
> > grabbed his cellphone and dialed 911. When a
> dispatcher answered, the 
> > preacher said a former congregant was in the
> sanctuary. "And we need to, 
> > um, have her out A.S.A.P."
> > 
> > Half an hour later, 71-year-old Karolyn Caskey, a
> church member for nearly
> > 50 years who had taught Sunday school and
> regularly donated 10% of her
> > pension, was led out by a state trooper and a
> county sheriff's officer. 
> > One held her purse and Bible. The other put her in
> handcuffs. (Listen to 
> > the 911 call)
> 
> Since when should the local property-tax-paying
> residents be obligated to 
> provide sergeant-at-arms services to
> non-property-tax-paying congregations? 
> Should income-tax-paying state residents be
> obligated to pay for otherwise 
> laudable inter-agency cooperation through such a
> church-state veil of 
> separation that is not penetrated by income taxes?
> 
> Should the local constabulary send a bill for a
> service call to the pastor?
> 
> Yes, officers respond to lots of planned
> organizational activities, but 
> parade permits, for example, can have fees attached
> to them that are 
> collected in advance. Pastor Burrick knew in advance
> that he didn't like 
> his long-time parishioner, and should have made
> arrangements to privately 
> handle her appearance rather than ask the tax-payers
> for assistance in a 
> non-threatening, non-emergency, non-riot situation.
> Absent such 
> arrangements, or their feasibility, the pastor
> deserves service charges.
> 
> 
> Ken
> 
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