[Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Wed Feb 27 10:40:43 PST 2008
I thank Carter and Ford would be next door neighbors. I would not care for Nixon as a neighbor, Carter has done a lot of good with Habitat for Humanity. I think he should stick to building houses.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:56:16 -0800
To: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com, Steven Basoa sbasoa at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
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> I'm curious about your previous assertion that FDR was one of the worst presidents ever. Can you tell me why?
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> I think he was one of the best. I'm not being snide.
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> I maintain Reagan was one of the worst. Again, not being snide.
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> I think Jimmy Carter was one of the most decent men to ever be president, and proof positive that decent men are often really bad presidents. With no trace of snideness -- I'm entirely sincere in this -- I think George W. Bush is neither decent nor a good president. With acknowledged sarcasm, I suppose the nicest thing I could say about him is that he would be a good next-door neighbor if I needed a lot of brush cut around my property.
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> Your turn.
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> Keely
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> > From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> > To: sbasoa at moscow.com
> > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:20:30 -0800
> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> >
> > Nothing could be farther from the truth. We have had some very good
> > presidents. J.F. Kennedy, D.D. Eisenhower, H.S. Truman, C. Coolidge, and A.
> > Lincoln for instance. We have also had some truly great presidents as well.
> > G. Washington, (the best ever bar none) T. Jefferson, J. Madison, and, of
> > course, R. W. Reagan.
> >
> > Perhaps you would be more comfortable with a monarchy?
> >
> > g
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Basoa" <sbasoa at moscow.com>
> > Cc: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, and add those 43 other presidents as well...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:38 PM, g. crabtree wrote:
> > >
> > > Roger, You left LBJ off of your worst presidents list. An inadvertent
> > > oversight I'm sure. I think that there is also a strong case to be
> > > made for
> > > Woodrow Wilson and, despite popular sentiment, FDR.
> > >
> > > g
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > >
> > >
> > >> Gary is right on Obama. Keely is wrong on Bush. Bush is far from
> > >> the best
> > >> president we have had, but he is far from the worst. The bottom tier
> > >> consists of Buchcanan, Pierce, Harding, and Carter. This is the
> > >> consensus
> > >> of most historians. The rankings change with time, but most agree
> > >> these
> > >> are the worst. W. H. Harrisson and Garfield weren'y president long
> > >> enough
> > >> to be evaluated.
> > >> Paul's idea on elections has some merit and it would save the
> > >> expenses of
> > >> a runoff election.
> > >> Roger
> > >>
> > >> -----Original message-----
> > >> From: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
> > >> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:24:43 -0800
> > >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > >>
> > >>> With pleasure:
> > >>>
> > >>> Estimated 800 Billion in new government spending for starters.
> > >>>
> > >>> Massive tax hikes to pay for above. (a 39.6 percent personal
> > >>> income tax,
> > >>> a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent
> > >>> capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent
> > >>> death
> > >>> tax, again just for starters. High likelihood of even higher rates
> > >>> for
> > >>> capital gains and death tax)
> > >>>
> > >>> Enormous increases in government bureaucracy. (health care,
> > >>> mortgages,
> > >>> education, etc.)
> > >>>
> > >>> Weakened military. (zero military or foreign affairs expertise)
> > >>>
> > >>> Additional intrusion by the government into the most minute
> > >>> aspects of
> > >>> our daily lives.
> > >>>
> > >>> Large increase in illegal immigration. (favors drivers licenses for
> > >>> illegals, weak on border enforcement)
> > >>>
> > >>> Disintegration of second amendment rights.
> > >>>
> > >>> Erosion of first amendment rights. (fairness doctrine, additional
> > >>> campaign finance reform)
> > >>>
> > >>> Will drive more U.S. corporations overseas. (major increases in
> > >>> tax rate
> > >>> and regulation)
> > >>>
> > >>> This is just the tip of the iceberg, I could go on. Pretty much
> > >>> all the
> > >>> things that make you all warm and tingly down below are the things
> > >>> that
> > >>> make me pretty much sick to my stomach.
> > >>>
> > >>> Would I be correct in assuming that your second paragraph with the
> > >>> multiple snide remarks about GW was included as an example of the
> > >>> sorts
> > >>> of things I should avoid to merit the "extra credit" you spoke of
> > >>> in the
> > >>> first paragraph?
> > >>>
> > >>> g
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: keely emerinemix
> > >>> To: g. crabtree ; Chasuk ; Vision2020
> > >>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:32 PM
> > >>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Please describe, Gary, why an Obama presidency would be a "horror
> > >>> show." Extra credit if you can do it without being snide.
> > >>>
> > >>> Even if not measured against the current occupant we have in the
> > >>> Oval
> > >>> Office, Barack Obama would represent an enormous improvement in
> > >>> brainpower, heart, and backbone, one for which I'll enthusiastically
> > >>> campaign. Of course the next president will be compared to Bush,
> > >>> which
> > >>> will have the effect of further consigning Bush to the bottom of
> > >>> the heap
> > >>> of history's losers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Keely
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> > >>>> To: chasuk at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >>>> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:26 -0800
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Run Ralph, Run! America needs you. (to help save us from the horror
> > >>> show
> > >>>> that would be Obama)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> g
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
> > >>>> To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:01 PM
> > >>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Ralph Nader could be poised for another third party presidential
> > >>> campaign.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on
> > >>> Sunday.
> > >>>>> Nader launched his 2004 presidential run on the show.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A spokesman for Nader did not immediately return a call seeking
> > >>> comment.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Kevin Zeese, who was Nader's spokesman during the 2004 presidential
> > >>>>> race, but is no longer working for him, said Friday that Nader has
> > >>>>> been actively talking to "lots of people on all sorts of levels"
> > >>> about
> > >>>>> the possibility of making another run.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Zeese said he could only guess what Nader might do, but added:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "Obviously, I don't think ("Meet the Press" host) Tim Russert would
> > >>>>> have him on for no reason."
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Last month, Nader began an exploratory presidential campaign and
> > >>>>> launched a Web site that promises to fight "corporate greed,
> > >>> corporate
> > >>>>> power, corporate control."
> > >>>>>
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