[Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention

[lfalen]

Saundra
American History Magazine prints a list every year or so. They have usually sighted sources from a broad range of the political spectrum. Nixion is on quite a few of the lists. Your first web site is a largely a left wing view. Buchanan and Harding are on most everybody's list. A lot of conservatives would place FDR, Wilson and LBJ on the worst list, because of their expansion of the federal government (same reason the left rates them high) and their miserable foreign policy. LbJ made a mess out of the Viet Nam war and Wilson's German policy after World War I is at least partially responsible for World war II. At least FDR foreign policy was better. Lincoln and Washington are high on most peoples lists. A lot of us would place Reagan in this group.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Saundra Lund" sslund_2007 at verizon.net
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:57:00 -0800
To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com, 	vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention

> Hi Roger,
> 
> Hmmm . . . I don't know that most historians do, in fact, agree with your
> list, but I do know that many political scientists don't agree -- Carter
> wouldn't be on that list but Nixon would, and this Bush is on the lists of
> many.
> 
> But, here's the historical historians' ranking I was able to find:
> http://www.infoplease.com/spot/presrankings1.html
> Note:  Carter doesn't appear.
> 
> Also check out:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents
> This provides a nice overview through time -- as well as the ability to
> cross-check for accuracy -- and again, I'm not seeing Carter in the bottom
> five on any of the *historian* polls, Roger.
> 
> Of course, any of us can cherry-pick polls to use, but I'm interested in the
> historian poll you're relying on to put Carter where you place him?
> 
> 
> TIA,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
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> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
> 
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> Saundra
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of lfalen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:30 AM
> To: g. crabtree; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> 
> Gary is right on Obama. Keely is wrong on Bush. Bush is far from the best
> president we have had, but he is far from the worst. The bottom tier
> consists of Buchcanan, Pierce, Harding, and Carter. This is the consensus of
> most historians. The rankings change with time, but most agree these are the
> worst. W. H. Harrisson and Garfield weren'y  president long enough to be
> evaluated.
> Paul's idea on elections has some merit and it would save the expenses of a
> runoff election.
> Roger
> 
> 
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