[Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention

[lfalen]

Gary is right on Obama. Keely is wrong on Bush. Bush is far from the best president we have had, but he is far from the worst. The bottom tier consists of Buchcanan, Pierce, Harding, and Carter. This is the consensus of most historians. The rankings change with time, but most agree these are the worst. W. H. Harrisson and Garfield weren'y  president long enough to be evaluated.
Paul's idea on elections has some merit and it would save the expenses of a runoff election.
Roger

-----Original message-----
From: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:24:43 -0800
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention

> With pleasure:
> 
> Estimated 800 Billion in new government spending for starters.
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> Massive tax hikes to pay for above. (a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent death tax, again just for starters. High likelihood of even higher rates for capital gains and death tax)
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> Enormous increases in government bureaucracy. (health care, mortgages, education, etc.)
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> Weakened military. (zero military or foreign affairs expertise)
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> Additional intrusion by the government into the most minute aspects of our daily lives.
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> Large increase in illegal immigration. (favors drivers licenses for illegals, weak on border enforcement)
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> Disintegration of second amendment rights.
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> Erosion of first amendment rights. (fairness doctrine, additional campaign finance reform)
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> Will drive more U.S. corporations overseas. (major increases in tax rate and regulation)
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> This is just the tip of the iceberg, I could go on. Pretty much all the things that make you all warm and tingly down below are the things that make me pretty much sick to my stomach.
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> Would I be correct in assuming that your second paragraph with the multiple snide remarks about GW was included as an example of the sorts of things I should avoid to merit the "extra credit" you spoke of in the first paragraph?
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> g
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: keely emerinemix 
>   To: g. crabtree ; Chasuk ; Vision2020 
>   Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:32 PM
>   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> 
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>   Please describe, Gary, why an Obama presidency would be a "horror show."  Extra credit if you can do it without being snide.
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>   Even if not measured against the current occupant we have in the Oval Office, Barack Obama would represent an enormous improvement in brainpower, heart, and backbone, one for which I'll enthusiastically campaign.  Of course the next president will be compared to Bush, which will have the effect of further consigning Bush to the bottom of the heap of history's losers.
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>   Keely
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> 
>   > From: jampot at roadrunner.com
>   > To: chasuk at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>   > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:26 -0800
>   > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
>   > 
>   > Run Ralph, Run! America needs you. (to help save us from the horror show 
>   > that would be Obama)
>   > 
>   > g
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
>   > To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>   > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:01 PM
>   > Subject: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
>   > 
>   > 
>   > > http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
>   > >
>   > > Ralph Nader could be poised for another third party presidential campaign.
>   > >
>   > > The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday.
>   > > Nader launched his 2004 presidential run on the show.
>   > >
>   > > A spokesman for Nader did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
>   > >
>   > > Kevin Zeese, who was Nader's spokesman during the 2004 presidential
>   > > race, but is no longer working for him, said Friday that Nader has
>   > > been actively talking to "lots of people on all sorts of levels" about
>   > > the possibility of making another run.
>   > >
>   > > Zeese said he could only guess what Nader might do, but added:
>   > >
>   > > "Obviously, I don't think ("Meet the Press" host) Tim Russert would
>   > > have him on for no reason."
>   > >
>   > > Last month, Nader began an exploratory presidential campaign and
>   > > launched a Web site that promises to fight "corporate greed, corporate
>   > > power, corporate control."
>   > >
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