[Vision2020] Advanced Real Estate Question

[Andreas Schou]

Pat --

The amount you pay for water consists of two factors:

(1) The amount you pay for the water you use; and
(2) The amount you pay (in taxes) for upkeep of the system.

-- ACS

On Feb 12, 2008 5:19 PM,  <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
> I must have missed something...how can it be a subsidies or give away if
> they are paying the going rate? A going rate that has not even been
> decided yet because we do not know just how much it is going to cost so
> we will only be not paid enough if it is allowed. In my conversations
> with those on the coucil that is not going to happen so I do not
> understand how it is a 'give away'.
> If we needed a new sewer system with or with out Hawkins and they are now
> going to help pay for it I do not see how that is not to our advantage.
> Help me out Jeff because I am not an economist but I thought that the
> more people especially businesses that are helping to pay could reduce
> the cost to little folks. Am I wrong??
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 2/11/08, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Whether the Hawkins development is be allowed to proceed with Idaho
> > > subsidies, or asked to proceed without them, or frozen in place by
> several
> > > or all relevant jurisdictions until planning results and decisions
> are in
> > > place are options yet unresolved as far as I know. It is not
> unreasonable,
> > > however, to ask that these options be examined in publicly available
> fora,
> > > and decisions taken with at least some cognizance of future corridor
> > > development expectations.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken
> >
> >
> > >From what I have gathered the "options examined in public..."
> consideration
> > regarding the Hawkins development is mostly absent.  A private
> developer,
> > and government servants who apparently are oriented toward thinking free
> > market corporate capitalism is the answer to the most critical problems
> of
> > the future, are making decisions for Moscow as though public input
> should
> > not be critically involved.
> >
> > Given the facts and arguments presented to Vision2020, an an open mind
> > regarding the claims and counter claims of economic impacts, I can't
> decide
> > whether or not the Hawkins development supported by Moscow services
> (water,
> > sewer, responders) is a deal revealing collusion, etc. to benefit a few
> at
> > the cost of Moscow taxpayers, as some have claimed, or whether it will
> in
> > the long run be an economic benefit to most all of Moscow.
> >
> > And there are critical issues regarding this Hawkins development that
> are
> > not even on the radar in this discussion, such as mitigation of CO2
> > emissions related climate change, and those eventual massive economic
> > impacts, and the economic consequences of fossil fuel depletion, as it
> > relates to the long term viability of sprawling suburban development,
> when
> > the fossil fueled fleet of vehicles that deliver to, service and allow
> > consumer access to this development, becomes very expensive to operate.
> >
> > Where is the long term local planning to address climate change and
> fossil
> > fuel depletion regarding the Hawkins development?  I've heard
> announcements
> > from the City of Moscow about being a leader in sustainability, yet is
> the
> > Hawkins development to be built with Green building certification?
> Will it
> > incorporate solar or wind or biofuel for its electricity, or maximum
> > efficiency in use of water (capturing rain water for some uses, for
> example,
> > lessening the drain on the aquifer)?  Did the city make the request for
> > Green building certification as a condition of providing services?
> Will the
> > location of this mall result in increases in Moscow/Pullman CO2
> > transportation related releases over more centralized locations?  The
> goods
> > and services that Moscow and Pullman need from outside our area might
> more
> > efficiently be provided by commercial outlets that are more centrally
> > located in each city.
> >
> > Ted Moffett
> >
>
>
>
>
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