[Vision2020] questions for Jeff/ was (no subject)

Thu Feb 14 20:50:10 PST 2008

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for taking the time to dialog about Hawkins.

I emailed v2020 earlier with a series of questions I'd
like to read your response to if you care to answer.

A little deeper then that, though, as you appear to be
pro-growth through the corridor starting on Moscow's
end, I'm wondering what your vision of that is.  Are
you really excited about seeing it developed similarly
to most other cities?

I moved to the Palouse in 1991 from LA and my parent's
live in western Wash, so I've seen strip mall sprawl
as far as the eye can see.  I'm always amazed at the
development that occurs so quickly.  Personally, I
think it's ridiculous to have 3 Walgreens within 7
miles of each other, on top of all the other chain
stores that seem so similar.  Do you have that sort of
vision for the corridor?  A bunch of chain stores
selling things you can get a few miles down the road? 
Where does that stop?

I think Hawkins is ridiculously huge, but if it
located closer to Pullman, so be it.  However, for a
mall twice the size as the PEM to be built, like a
leech, next to Moscow (we have no choice but to be on
the border since that's where we are) seems predatory.
 They've admitted that they want Moscow's business,
and they swindled their way in, through their
"agreement," while getting subsidized by Moscow
taxpayers.  Do you think this kind of project,
spearheaded by a huge development firm who has little
regard for the "locals," is really necessary?

As a farmer, I am not anti-growth.  I love to grow
things.  This leads to another reason I'm concerned
about sprawl.  We are losing farmland all around, and
it's not just going to come back.  There may be a day
when we wish we had that farmland back, instead of a
concrete monstrosity.  It seems though, that the
almighty dollar has many people bowing down, not
seeing that this uncontrolled "pro-growth" is really
detrimental to us in the long run.  The growth path we
are currently on is not sustainable, and it is
irresponsible to continue to feed it.

Most of these chain stores are feeding the riches
families in the world while providing low wage jobs
with little to no benefits.  On top of that, they are
selling things made mostly overseas, with questionable
means of production (little to no labor or environment
regulations).  It would be one thing if people
supported growing our local economy sustainably,
taking advantage of the creativity of the locals. 
We'd be creating far more wealth if more people used
their energies towards creating tangible assets,
rather than focusing on retail.  How many square feet
of retail can we possibly need?

Thanks for your time,

Garrett

ps  We are excited to be offering Community Supported
Agriculture shares this summer for 40 people.  We just
got our seeds today!  To excite you all for the coming
growing season, here is a list of the varieties we
plan to grow:

205PO-Provider Bush Green Bean OG (B=8oz) 1 x $4.20=
$4.20
210ST-Strike Bush Green Bean (B=8oz) 1 x $3.50= $3.50
230JD-Jade Bush Green Bean (B=8oz) 1 x $4.50= $4.50
292RS-Rattlesnake Pole Bean (B=8oz) 1 x $3.50= $3.50
297MP-Multicolored Pole Bean Mix (B=2oz) 1 x $2.80=
$2.80
812DW-Dwarf White Sugar Snow Pea (B=8oz) 1 x $3.30=
$3.30
818GT-Oregon Giant Snow Pea (C=1lb) 1 x $5.50= $5.50
826SP-Oregon Sugar Pod II Snow Pea (C=1lb) 1 x $5.20=
$5.20
882SU-Sugar Ann Snap Pea (C=1lb) 1 x $6.20= $6.20
892NP-Sugarsnap Snap Pea (C=1lb) 1 x $6.60= $6.60
1244MG-Mexican Sour Gherkin Cucumber ECO (A=0.2g) 1 x
$1.60= $1.60
1312MM-Marketmore 76 Slicing Cucumber (B=1/4oz) 1 x
$1.20= $1.20
1382SZ-Super Zagross Middle Eastern Slicing Cucumber
(B=1/4oz) 1 x
 $2.40= $2.40
1411BZ-Black Zucchini (B=1/4oz) 1 x $1.50= $1.50
1504SF-Saffron Summer Squash (C=1/2oz) 1 x $2.50=
$2.50
1608TQ-Table Queen Acorn Winter Squash (B=1/2oz) 1 x
$1.50= $1.50
1628BB-Burgess Buttercup Winter Squash (B=1/2oz) 1 x
$1.80= $1.80
1660SM-Sweet Meat Winter Squash (B=1/2oz) 1 x $1.60=
$1.60
1666SP-Spaghetti Winter Squash (C=1oz) 1 x $3.00=
$3.00
1680SM-Sweet Mama Buttercup Winter Squash (A=1/8oz) 1
x $2.20= $2.20
1683CV-Carnival Winter Squash (B=1/4oz) 1 x $3.20=
$3.20
1687ND-Nutty Delica Winter Squash (A=1/8oz) 1 x $2.20=
$2.20
1702WL-Wee-B-Little Pumpkin (B=1/4oz) 1 x $3.00= $3.00
1702WL-Wee-B-Little Pumpkin (A=1/8oz) 1 x $1.60= $1.60
2018TP-Tonda di Parigi Carrot (A=1/8oz) 1 x $1.20=
$1.20
2042SN-Scarlet Nantes Carrot (C=1oz) 1 x $4.00= $4.00
2050NF-Nantes Fancy Carrot (C=1oz) 1 x $6.50= $6.50
2086MK-Mokum Carrot (C=6g) 1 x $5.00= $5.00
2096PH-Purple Haze Carrot (D=24g) 1 x $20.00= $20.00
2098SW-Sweetness II Carrot (A=1/8oz) 1 x $1.40= $1.40
2109WO-Early Wonder Tall Top Beet OG (B=1/2oz) 1 x
$1.70= $1.70
2121RO-Red Ace Beet OG (B=1/2oz) 1 x $3.20= $3.20
2147GO-Golden Detroit Beet OG (A=1/8oz) 1 x $1.50=
$1.50
2214CB-Cherry Belle Radish (B=1/2oz) 1 x $1.00= $1.00
2224EE-Easter Egg Radish (C=1oz) 1 x $3.20= $3.20
2408LN-Lincoln Leek (A=1/16oz) 1 x $1.80= $1.80
2425BS-Bleu de Solaize Leek (B=1/8oz) 1 x $2.50= $2.50
2444CW-Crystal White Wax Onion (C=1/2oz) 1 x $3.00=
$3.00
2454EX-Expression Onion (B=1/8oz) 1 x $2.80= $2.80
2472CP-Copra Onion (C=1/2oz) 1 x $8.00= $8.00
2488VS-Varsity Onion (B=1/8oz) 1 x $2.60= $2.60
2510SP-Space Spinach (B=1/2oz) 1 x $1.50= $1.50
2512LY-Olympia Spinach (B=1/2oz) 1 x $1.80= $1.80
2551TO-Tyee Spinach OG (B=1/2oz) 1 x $2.00= $2.00
2592NZ-New Zealand Spinach (B=1/2oz) 1 x $1.70= $1.70
2712BO-Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce OG (B=4g) 1 x
$1.30= $1.30
2722SB-Salad Bowl Lettuce (B=4g) 1 x $1.00= $1.00
2731CO-Cracoviensis Lettuce OG (B=2g) 1 x $1.80= $1.80
2792RO-Revolution Lettuce OG (B=2g) 1 x $1.80= $1.80
2803TT-Tom Thumb Lettuce (B=4g) 1 x $1.00= $1.00
2859MR-Majestic Red Lettuce (B=2g) 1 x $1.60= $1.60
2861JO-Jericho Lettuce OG (B=2g) 1 x $1.80= $1.80
2886WW-Winter Wonderland Lettuce (B=2g) 1 x $1.60=
$1.60
2921NO-Anuenue Lettuce OG (B=2g) 1 x $1.80= $1.80
2922RI-Red Iceburg Lettuce (B=2g) 1 x $1.80= $1.80
2931WW-Webbs Wonderful Lettuce (C=14g) 1 x $2.00=
$2.00
3031FG-Fordhook Giant Chard (D=1oz) 1 x $2.40= $2.40
3034PS-Gator Perpetual Spinach or Leaf Beet (C=1/2oz)
1 x $2.40= $2.40
3036BL-Bright Lights Chard (D=1oz) 1 x $5.50= $5.50
3041RO-Ruby Red Rhubarb Chard OG (C=1/2oz) 1 x $2.50=
$2.50
3218SP-Senposai (A=1/16oz) 1 x $1.20= $1.20
3222GW-Green Wave Mustard (A=1/16oz) 1 x $0.60= $0.60
3234LO-Pink Lettucy Mustard Gene Pool OG (A=1/16oz) 1
x $1.30= $1.30
3239PO-Osaka Purple Mustard OG (A=1/16oz) 1 x $1.20=
$1.20
3260SH-Shuko Pac Choi (B=1/8oz) 1 x $2.20= $2.20
3273FJ-Fun Jen Chinese Cabbage (A=1/16oz) 1 x $1.10=
$1.10
3292GS-Garland Serrated Chrysanthemum (B=1/8oz) 1 x
$2.10= $2.10
3306TG-Tendergreen Broccoli (C=4g) 1 x $6.00= $6.00
3308PC-Premium Crop Broccoli (C=4g) 1 x $6.00=
$6.00-currently on
 backorder
3316PO-Purple Peacock Broccoli OG (B=1g) 1 x $1.80=
$1.80
3355EJ-Early Jersey Wakefield Cabbage (B=4g) 1 x
$1.00= $1.00
3375RP-Ruby Perfection Cabbage (B=1g) 1 x $3.00= $3.00
3450KO-EvenStar Smooth Kale OG (A=1/16oz) 1 x $2.00=
$2.00
3456RO-Red Russian Kale OG (B=4g) 1 x $1.60= $1.60
3467CP-Nero di Tuscana or Cavolo Palmizio Kale (B=4g)
1 x $1.50= $1.50
3608SO-Imperial Star Globe Artichoke OG (C=4g) 1 x
$8.00= $8.00
3703KO-Klari Baby Cheese Sweet Pepper OG (A=0.5g) 1 x
$1.60= $1.60
3704PO-Peacework Sweet Pepper OG (C=1g) 1 x $3.00=
$3.00
3706NO-King of the North Sweet Pepper OG (B=1g) 1 x
$1.80= $1.80
3715BO-Boldog Hungarian Spice Sweet Paprika Pepper OG
(A=0.2g) 1 x
 $1.20= $1.20
3735CO-Chocolate Sweet Pepper OG (A=0.2g) 1 x $1.60=
$1.60
3740WE-Sweet Pimiento Sweet Pepper ECO (A=0.2g) 1 x
$1.00= $1.00
3746FH-Feherozon Sweet Pepper (A=0.2g) 1 x $1.00=
$1.00
3755HM-Ho Chi Minh Hot Pepper ECO (A=0.2g) 1 x $1.10=
$1.10
3756BC-Bulgarian Carrot Chile Hot Pepper (A=0.5g) 1 x
$1.40= $1.40
3761JA-Jaluv An Attitude Hot Pepper ECO (A=0.2g) 1 x
$1.50= $1.50
3780FS-Fish Hot Pepper ECO (A=0.2g) 1 x $1.30= $1.30
3783TO-Thai Hot Pepper OG (A=0.2g) 1 x $1.70= $1.70
3810AC-New Ace Sweet Pepper (A=0.2g) 1 x $1.50= $1.50
4008HC-Husk Cherry (B=1g) 1 x $1.50= $1.50
4014VO-Verde Puebla Tomatillo OG (A=0.2g) 1 x $1.20=
$1.20
4024SP-Oregon Spring Tomato (B=1g) 1 x $1.60= $1.60
4038CO-Cosmonaut Volkov Tomato OG (B=0.4g) 1 x $2.00=
$2.00
4059CO-Cherokee Purple Tomato OG (B=0.4g) 1 x $2.00=
$2.00
4067RO-Rose de Berne Tomato OG (B=0.4g) 1 x $2.00=
$2.00
4097RO-Ruby Gold Tomato OG (B=0.4g) 1 x $2.00= $2.00
4418GB-Genovese Basil (B=10g) 1 x $2.00= $2.00
4422MB-Mammoth Basil (B=7g) 1 x $2.50= $2.50
4464BO-Sacred Basil OG (B=1g) 1 x $2.50= $2.50
4470TB-Thai Basil (B=4g) 1 x $2.20= $2.20
4515LO-Cilantro OG (B=4g) 1 x $2.20= $2.20
4520DF-Delfino Cilantro (B=4g) 1 x $1.60= $1.60
4530BU-Bouquet Dill (A=4g) 1 x $0.90= $0.90
4542MM-Mammoth Dill (A=4g) 1 x $0.80= $0.80
4556ZF-Zefa Fino Fennel (B=3g) 1 x $2.50= $2.50