[Vision2020] Water and Sewer Agreements: second reply fromWalter Steed

[Garrett Clevenger]

I'm glad that some on the council replied to you. 
What kind of response did you get?

>From my experience during the noise ordinance, the
council lacked adequate replies to my emails.  John
Weber and Bill Lambert refused to answer numerous
emails, some with requests specifically asking for
some kind of response.  I got nothing.  They were ones
strongly supporting the NO, and it seems reasonable
for them to defend their positions to a concerned
constituent.

Some council members replied, but generally their
responses didn't specifically address my concerns, but
instead seemed to be mostly hot air.

For the Hawkins deal, only Walter Steed replied.

Perhaps others are getting adequate responses from the
council, but from people I've talked with, that is not
the case.

Take care,

Garrett
--- Angie Doe <moscowresident at gmail.com> wrote:

> Garrett States
> 
> "but I think
> it's funny that that aspect has created so much
> conversation, rather than the fact that our council
> people, for the most part, don't answer our emails
> at
> all."
> 
> I say,
> 
> I have contacted the current council regarding my
> questions and concerns
> related to this issue.  I received responses from 4
> members.  I am not
> inclined to believe that your statement is true.
> 
> Angie
> 
> On Feb 12, 2008 8:57 PM, Garrett Clevenger
> <garrettmc at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps I could have handled this sending of our
> > councilman's email to  v2020 differently, but I
> think
> > it's funny that that aspect has created so much
> > conversation, rather than the fact that our
> council
> > people, for the most part, don't answer our emails
> at
> > all.
> >
> > I appreciate that Walter Steed had the respect to
> > reply to this important topic.  He is the only
> one.
> > It's the other council members who support the
> Greater
> > Moscow Giveaway, and then ignore our questions,
> who
> > trouble me.
> >
> > The fact is, if we are unable to share with each
> other
> > their responses, how would we ever hold them
> > accountable?  What would prevent them from sending
> > people different answer, taylored to what they
> think
> > the recipient wants to hear?
> >
> > If council people are uncomfortable responding to
> > their constituents, then they shouldn't be serving
> as
> > elected officials.  Part of their job is to
> > communicate with us about issues we care about. 
> Their
> > lack of response leads me to believe they have no
> > reasonable defense for their actions.
> >
> > Those who do respond should be able to stand
> behind
> > their replies, and not feel hesitant to have their
> > responses made public.
> >
> > If Walter is mad at me for making public his
> reply,
> > that is up to him.  Perhaps he'll never reply to
> me
> > again.  All that would do is make me lose respect
> for
> > him for desiring to maintain some sort of
> > confidentiallity with a constituent who in the end
> is
> > just trying to figure what they are doing, why
> they
> > are doing it and to encourage dialog amongst us
> all so
> > that we can come to a reasonable understanding.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Garrett
> > --- Warren Hayman <whayman at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I believe that simple prior clearance or even
> notice
> > > with Mr. Steed (indicating the intent of
> subsequent
> > > public posting etc) would have eradicated all
> > > problems one way or the other.
> > >
> > > Warren Hayman
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Ted Moffett
> > >   To: Chasuk
> > >   Cc: Vision 2020 ; Garrett Clevenger
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:56 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water and Sewer
> > > Agreements: second reply fromWalter Steed
> > >
> > >
> > >   On Feb 12, 2008 5:27 PM, Chasuk
> <chasuk at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >     On Feb 12, 2008 5:20 PM, Ted Moffett
> > > <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >     \
> > >     > This indicates clearly that Mr. Steed knew
> > > Garrett might post his response
> > >     > to the list, and asked him not to.  But I
> > > disagree with Mr. Steeds decision,
> > >     > and the obvious avoidance of Vision2020 by
> > > many public officials, to refuse
> > >     > to engage in dialog on Vision2020.
> > >
> > >
> > >     I took it to mean that he knew that Garrett
> was
> > > posting his emails to
> > >     Vision2020, and wished for Garrett to make
> clear
> > > that  this
> > >     second-hand participation was not an
> invitation
> > > to contact him
> > >     directly.  Garrett complied by publishing
> that
> > > excerpt.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   I understand this interpretation.
> > >
> > >   But if Mr. Steed is open to all e-mails from
> > > private individuals, as he wrote below,
> > >
> > >   "I try to respond promptly at all e-mails sent
> > > directly to me by individuals,,,"
> > >
> > >   this might contradict the statement he does
> not
> > > want Garrett to "incite Vision2020 to start
> sending
> > > everything to me..." as he also wrote.
> > >
> > >   So is Mr. Steed open to anyone subscribed to
> > > Vision2020 contacting him privately?  Or was he
> > > saying he did not want a flood of private
> e-mails
> > > from Vision2020 subscribers?
> > >
> > >   For Garrett to post his responses to the list
> > > certainly might invite many private and/or
> public
> > > responses, no matter who wishes what.
> > >
> > >   Ted Moffett
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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