[Vision2020] Water and Sewer Agreements: reply from Walter Steed

[J Ford]

Walter Steed says (wisely?):
"Locating by Pullman would have had no impact on water
from our aquifer as it would be drawn from the same
basin."

Em, what part of "the same basin" does he not get?  OF COURSE IT WOULD IMPACT US!

If you see somehow that it wouldn't, please enlighten us with your oh-so-great wisdom, Mr. Steed, so that we may 
all be on the same page....like as in, "in the same know".

Sheesh!J  :]


> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:58:44 -0800
> From: garrettmc at verizon.net
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Water and Sewer Agreements: reply from Walter Steed
> 
> I'm pasting Walter Steed's reply to my post yesterday
> (It's a reply to me, though he thinks I'm "Jason
> Hawkins" the Hawkins developer guy, as I had put his
> name and phone number near the end of the message)
> 
> Garrett
> 
> 
> Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:52:15
> 
> Jason, Thank you for your questions.
> 
> We did ask why that particular site and the answer we
> got was that they could find no land large enough and
> suitable for them to use in Moscow.  I believe they
> wanted to be by Moscow to take advantage of the larger
> retail presence we have than does Pullman.  
> 
> Locating by Pullman would have had no impact on water
> from our aquifer as it would be drawn from the same
> basin.
> 
> I guess we will just have to disagree regarding the
> impacts on Moscow businesses.  I believe a Lowes, for
> example, would attract shoppers from outside our area
> who are then likely to do additional shopping in
> Moscow.  I know when we go to Costco in Clarkston or
> to a specific store in Spokane, we often buy from
> other businesses, including restaurants, movies and
> gas stations, for which we would not have made the
> trip.
> 
> Again, thank you for your concerns and inquiries.
> 
> Walter
> 
> Walter Steed
> 1345 Ridgeview Drive
> Moscow ID 83843
> Phone 208-883-0123
> Fax 208-882-7184
> wmsteed at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> [Vision2020] Water and Sewer Agreements
> Garrett Clevenger
> 
> Hello City,
> 
> I'd also like to know, did anyone ever ask Hawkins why
> they chose the site by our border?
> 
> Obviously, that is presenting direct competition to
> Moscow, without providing any tax revenue back.  Are
> they planning to put some money into the city coffers
> besides their payment for water and sewage?  
> 
> Did anyone ask Hawkins to find a location closer to
> Pullman, as that would seem more "neighborly" and less
> an attempt at not only sucking lots of groundwater for
> from what seems an unnecessary development, but also
> sucking out money that more than likely would be spent
> in Moscow instead?
> 
> How do the other Moscow malls, and other businesses
> feel about this agreement?
> 
> Were they consulted with and given an opportunity to
> affect the discussion?
> 
> Frankly, I'm again disappointed by the city actions
> over this.  You have agreed to a huge deal that you
> say was your attempt to control a uncontrolable
> development, and in the process, have guaranteed an
> outside-the-state private entity an extraordinary
> amount of water and sewage services, yet while, from
> what I can tell, they can still drill a well if for
> some reason they need more water.  And you did this
> without, from what I can tell, allowing for a public
> discussion before you agreed to your secret terms.
> 
> It seems that if the city has given in to standing up
> for Moscow, perhaps people should contact the Hawkins
> people?  Maybe they would be reasonable and understand
> our concerns and do the right thing.  Otherwise, it
> seems Moscow is doomed to have growing competition
> really close to our boarder, and with the precident
> set, they all are going to want a piece of the
> "agreement." 
> 
> Unfortunately, Hawkins Companies LLC is a pretty big
> developer located throughout the country, so more than
> likely their bottom line is to make $$$.  Thanks to
> the city, they saved Hawkins quite a lot of hassle and
> dollars.  Quite a gift to give to a major potential
> competitor...
> 
> Jason Hawkins
> 208 376 8522
> 
> http://www.hawkinscompanies.com/contact.htm
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Garrett Clevenger
> 
> 
> --- Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > In part, Garrett wrote:
> > "Does anyone know if Moscow has similar agreements
> > with other private
> > parties guaranteeing them water and sewer?"
> > 
> > Thanks, Garrett, for asking the question because
> > it's something I've been
> > wondering as well.  My limited understanding from
> > watching previous city
> > councils is that it seems for property *outside*
> > Moscow city limits to be
> > able to get City of Moscow water & sewer services,
> > they generally have to be
> > annexed into city limits.  However comments made by
> > some have made me wonder
> > if perhaps I've misunderstood previous requests from
> > those outside city
> > limits to be served by city water & sewer?
> > 
> > Does anyone know how many water and/or sewer
> > customers outside city limits
> > Moscow has and how long the City has accommodated
> > such requests?
> > 
> > And, since I got no response to my earlier question
> > (given the breadth of
> > varied knowledge of Visionaries, I thought this
> > would be a good place to
> > ask, but maybe not), I'm going to ask again:  can
> > someone please tell me
> > what effect the City of Moscow supplying water to
> > the Hawkins development
> > will have on our ability to meet the voluntary
> > pumping limits in the Ground
> > Water Management Plan?  IIRC, we've only recently
> > managed to meet the 1%
> > annual increase limit and we were very close to the
> > top of the 125% ceiling.
> > 
> > 
> > TIA,
> > Saundra Lund
> > Moscow, ID
> > 
> > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is
> > for good people to do
> > nothing.
> > ~ Edmund Burke
> 
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