[Vision2020] Snow Grouch

Art Deco deco at moscow.com
Tue Dec 30 07:13:07 PST 2008


Maybe a new mayor and especially a new city manager would help.

W.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Craine Kit 
  To: Chasuk 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; mattd2107 at hotmail.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow Grouch


  a) Responsibility is responsibility. Having to shovel in the dark or  
  early in the morning is one of those nasty little things that comes  
  with owning property  or signing a lease that makes shoveling the  
  tenants responsibility. If one has to arise early just in case snow  
  needs to be shovelled, so be it. If you guess wrong, enjoy an extra  
  cup of coffee.

  b) If you are going to be out of town when it might snow, it is still  
  your RESPONSIBILITY to make sure your sidewalks are cleared while you  
  are gone. If your substitutes fails, that is between you and him/her.  
  Do not expect passing pedestrians to pay.

  c) If you are suddenly ill, it is still your RESPONSIBILITY to do the  
  sidewalks (remind me to tell you the story of my having two impacted  
  wisdom teeth removed the day before an unexpected 10" of snow and  
  having to find someone to clear my walks when I was zoned out on pain  
  killers and couldn't talk). Even so, it is not unreasonable for the  
  community to provide (via the city or other means) an organization  
  you can call for help. I have been suggesting this for years to no  
  effect.

  d) I have proposed (and sort of got a start on) a voluntary program  
  thorough PCEI to help those who truly can't comply with the law. The  
  city wasn't interested.

  This is a problem that can be solved if the community--as managed by  
  the city--is interested. Fact is, that neither the city nor the  
  community really cares--they would rather have pedestrians to walking  
  in the traffic lanes than make travel on Moscow's sidewalks safe for  
  everyone.

  I am endlessly amazed at the number of whining excuses why the  
  responsibility-challanged should be able to harm those who are  
  exercising their right to  safely use a public sidewalk instead of  
  being "men" and doing what needs to be done.

  Kit Craine





  On Dec 29, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Chasuk wrote:

  > This is a problem that doesn't have an easy solution.  Not everyone
  > who fails to clear their public easement within 24 hour is a scofflaw.
  >  Shoveling isn't easy for everyone.  Whether because of obesity, age,
  > illness, injury, or other infirmity, not everyone is capable of doing
  > it.  For those who are capable, the 24-hour requirement, while
  > seemingly reasonable, isn't always enough time.  Combine work and
  > sleep, and maybe school, and you are left shoveling in the dark.
  > Maybe you are visiting family during the holidays.  Maybe you have no
  > family or friends who can help, or they can't help precisely according
  > to schedule.  Maybe paying your rent and your mortgage is already
  > tight, and you have to decide which is more important, paying someone
  > to shovel your snow, or buying groceries.  Maybe charity is
  > embarrassing for you, or you don't know where to seek it.
  >
  > Let's have some compassion, folks.

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