[Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!

[Donovan Arnold]

Paul,

Based on what you said, I don't think you understand the situation. 

In order for us to release prisoners at Gitmo, we have to have a place to release them to. No nation will take them. Most of them are outcasts and criminals of some sort. They were prisoners before we had them. 

I disagree that the US cannot detain people that it considers to be a threat to US Security or whom we believe attacked us on 9/11. 

As important as the freedom of many of these suspects are, allowing for the deaths of thousands of Americans and the shutting down of our economy is to great to play games with. 

If we can find out who is innocent, we should release them, and have military trials inside Gitmo, like we are doing.

Our situation is not any different than WWII or the Vietnam War. 

Best Regards,

Donovan


--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>, "vision 2020" <Vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Ralph Nielsen" <nielsen at uidaho.edu>, "Dave" <tiedye at turbonet.com>
> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:48 PM
> Donovan Arnold wrote:
> > Paul,
> > 
> > At least 12 of them admitted to playing a part on
> attacking the United States on 9/11. Where do you suppose we
> place potentially violent people that hate the US and no
> other country will take them?
> >   
> 
> We really have two options.  Try them in court if we have
> evidence against them, or let them go.  The 12 you speak of
> we should have a fair chance at trying in a court of law and
> getting a conviction, assuming it's true that they
> admitted to playing a part in the attack.  If we have no
> evidence for the others, then we should let them go.  I
> don't know where they should be placed - that's a
> whole other question.  Perhaps we could stop torturing them
> while we try to find a place that will take them?
> 
> > Do you think we should have individually tried each
> Nazi before imprisoning them?
> >   
> 
> Before imprisoning them, no.  The Nazi situation is
> different, though.  We were in an actual
> declared-by-Congress war.  That makes them prisoners of war,
> and we have rules for how they can be handled.  Rules which
> Bush & Co. told us need not apply to those in Gitmo, as
> they were too cumbersome for their tastes.
> 
> I find it amazing that we would treat pedophiles, homicidal
> maniacs, Nazis, and genocidal dictators better then we have
> treated some of the innocent people in Gitmo these last few
> years.
> 
> Paul