[Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 21 14:05:24 PST 2008


Ralph,

If you hate the US so much, and Canada is so perfect, why don't you leave us go there?

When I was a kid, I use to work hard doing chores to save money for summer fun. I would buy stuff with my hard earned money, and because I was a kid, the clerks would slip me Canadian coins with my change only to later find out I couldn't buy anything with it. Your government stole money from an eight year old kid, by printing worthless money. That was my thinking as a child.

I grew out of my childish thinking and have grown to appreciate the things that Canada has to offer the world, while realizing no people or country is entirely good. 

You obviously haven't grown past that childish stage. You should think about that while you enjoy everything the USA brought you;

Light Bulb
Electricity
Computers
Airplanes
Cars
The Internet
Microwave
Television
Freedom from Germany, Twice.

Best Regards,

Donovan


 


--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:

> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!
> To: "vision 2020" <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Cc: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Dave" <tiedye at turbonet.com>
> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 1:24 PM
> When I was in Gr. 5 in the small one-room school up the road
> in Edgewater BC a few years ago we had to learn the names,
> capitals and principal cities, and principal products or
> industries of all 48 states to the south of us.
> 
> Later, when I worked in the tourist business in Radium Hot
> Springs, I found to my amazement and disgust that many
> Americans had no idea how many provinces there are in
> Canada, or even what province they were in. Some thought we
> used English pounds, shillings and pence, some thought we
> all spoke French. Some refused to take Canadian $2 bills,
> which were very popular in Canada. To them we would explain
> that Canadian $2 bills were lucky. In fact, twice as lucky
> as $1 bills.
> 
> Part of the trouble, of course, is that the USA is not a
> distinctive name. Some had suggested "Columbia,"
> which was probably how British Columbia got its name. So
> saying "America" for the USA is not intentionally
> belittling any other country in the American hemisphere. We
> simply don't have a choice, do we?
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
> This goes along with issue I had about the High School: The
> U.S. History
> textbook is wrongfully titled "American History",
> but I checked, it has
> nothing in it about most of America, it only focuses on one
> set of fifty
> states, one of which isn't even IN America.
> 
> I wonder if Donovan is a product of MHS, where the State
> mandated
> "Social Studies" curriculum consists of:  U.S.
> History I, U.S. History
> II, and U.S. Government.  Does anyone else notice what is
> missing in
> this picture?  Like, maybe, the rest of the world?
> 
> Perhaps this is why Donovan and many others believe that
> the United
> States owns the world.
> 
> It comes from confusing patriotism with nationalism.
> 
> Personally I don't trust any "ism".
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> Ellen Roskovich wrote:
> > *Well, Donovan, you have gone and done it.....forced
> me to hop up on
> > my soapbox and give you what for in the name of all my
> Canadian
> > friends.  Trust me.....they get very annoyed with
> their neighbors to
> > the south when we call them Canadians and refer to
> ourselves as
> > "Americans".....as if we owned the entire
> North American continent
> > instead of sharing it.*
> > **
> > *I rather like the notion that we have to
> share.....and that there's
> > another little bridge of land to the south with
> Mexico.....also
> > Americans....and if we follow that Central American
> bridge, we end up
> > in South America.  Kind of like going from one
> neighborhood to another.  *
> > **
> > *Stay warm, Moscow.*
> > **
> > *Ellen A. Roskovich*
> > **
> > **
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