[Vision2020] Shoes thrown at President Bush

[Kai Eiselein, Editor]

Donovan,

While there is no love lost between myself and lawyers, I find your diatribe 
disturbing.
The accused are just that, accused, until proven guilty. They are entitled 
to a defense equal to the prosecution against them, if not, then the whole 
system of "innocent until proven guilty" is nothing but a sham.
If someone is to be prosecuted, then the prosecutors had damn well have 
enough evidence to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. If they 
can't, they have no business bringing charges in the first place. It is one 
of the jobs of the defender to make sure the prosecution brings their 
"A-game".

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From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:51 PM
To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>; "vision 2020" 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Shoes thrown at President Bush

> Tom,
>
> I am glad you are capable of segregating the difference between my belief 
> to competent counsel and my disagreement with a person to represent 
> criminals.
>
> But your statement, "Then you go on to criticize the very people that 
> defend them." , is incorrect. I am not criticizing "them" I am criticizing 
> Sunil, only, in this instance, for wasting his talents on the garbage of 
> society instead of those that are truly unfortunate and deserving of 
> affordable counsel.
>
> If Superman used his powers only to save vicious pit bulls about to get 
> run over by semi trucks while ignoring the train wrecks and school buses 
> tittering on the edge of a bridge, would you not be criticizing Superman 
> for the choices he makes with the talents and abilities he has?
>
> Likewise, I think Sunil has made a bad moral decision to work for the 
> release of Sitler and others over that of more noble causes for our 
> community.
>
> That is what I believe. You are free to believe that Sunil's talents and 
> abilities are best spent in the pursuit of championing the causes of 
> criminals. I will not.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Shoes thrown at President Bush
>> To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, "vision 2020" 
>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 2:39 PM
>> Arnold -
>>
>> You state that child molesters, murders, etc. etc. are
>> entitled to
>> counsel, and I agree with you 100%.
>>
>> Then you go on to criticize the very people that defend
>> them.
>>
>> People, regardless of the charges, innocent or guilty, are
>> entitled to
>> counsel (think GITMO).  In my opinion, one of the hardest
>> jobs in a free
>> society to undertake is defense of the unpopular.
>>
>> The most heinous, most despised, most immoral person in the
>> United States
>> is entitled to counsel, Arnold, even you.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> >
>> > Donovan,
>> >
>> > Your every post confirms your idiocy.  Stop while some
>> may yet have
>> doubts.
>> >
>> > Sunil
>> >
>> > > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:15:16 -0800
>> > > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Shoes thrown at
>> President Bush
>> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com;
>> sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>> > >
>> > > Sunil,
>> > >
>> > > It is hard to argue with someone that often says
>> things that even he
>> migh> t not believe in, nor one that will not answer
>> direct questions such
>> as
>> w> hy he chooses to defend causes that assist criminals
>> and terrorists
>> instead>  of the less fortunate.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, Sunil, you do work for lots of poor people.
>> But you don't
>> champi> on poverty causes. Which was my point, and I am
>> sure you knew
>> that.
>> > >
>> > > Once again, you mince words and meanings to
>> justify your actions and
>> ch> ampioned causes that could harm when successful, or
>> would do harm if
>> you
>> > were successful.
>> > >
>> > > You asked for proof, OK, here is a few names you
>> choose to
>> defend;>
>> > >
>> > > Steven James Sitler
>> > > Timothy Andrew Kellis
>> > > Brandon Elliott
>> > > James C. Leonard
>> > > Mark Lankford
>> > >
>> > > I have a few other causes you could have taken up
>> in their place;
>> > >
>> > > SSI for those with a disability without means of
>> getting a lawyer
>> > > Wider Sidewalks so people in wheelchairs can use
>> them
>> > > Affordable housing
>> > > Snow plowed sidewalks
>> > > A electronic crosswalk for 3rd Street
>> > >
>> > > I could list more names, and more causes, and you
>> will make excuses
>> a> s to why you choose the route you do.
>> > >
>> > > It is unfortunate you are no longer a
>> smoke-jumper. That was an
>> incredibl> y noble job you once help and few of us could
>> ever live up to.
>> I only wish
>> > you would do something just as noble again, with your
>> intellect and
>> abili> ties. Your talents have been going to the
>> garbage, and I almost mean
>> that>  literally.
>> > >
>> > > Best Regards,
>> > >
>> > >
>> Donovan
>>
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