[Vision2020] Thought Police: Re:Senator Larry Craig Challenges Guilty Plea

[Donovan Arnold]

Hansen wrote:
   
  "In my opinion a person situated in a public restroom stall is entitled to the same degree of privacy against on-lookers as if (s)he were in a bathroom at home."
   
  If a person is entitled to the same level of privacy in a public bathroom stall as at home, then why would engaging in sexual activity in a bathroom stall be legal if it is not at home?
   
  Sounds like Hansen is trying to have his cake and eat it too. 
   
  Why would someone sitting on a stall allow someone to gaze at them for two whole minutes without any reaction or response. That is a long time not to say something back to a guy. I would think someone would say something back, or flip him off, or tell "Its going be a while bud". I but not remain complacent about it unless he was doing something to invite Craig. 
   
  Too many things about this story just don't add up. My bet, this won't go to trial, and Craig won't resign. 
   
  Best,
   
  Donovan
   
   
  

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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  “If the police officer was sitting in the stall clothed, what invasion of privacy occurred if someone gazed at him through the crack in the door?”
   
  Are you suggesting, Mr. Moffett, that it is acceptable to “gaze” from outdoors into somebody’s bathroom as long as either nobody is there or if somebody is there, they are fully clothed. 
   
  Hey, wait a minute!  This all sounds too familiar.  Oh, but that was/is Steve Sitler, our local construction working surveyor’s assistant.
   
  Senator Craig “gazed” at the police officer seated in the restroom stall for approximately two minutes.  In my opinion a person situated in a public restroom stall is entitled to the same degree of privacy against on-lookers as if (s)he were in a bathroom at home.
   
    Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007) 

      
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  From: Ted Moffett [mailto:starbliss at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 2:23 PM
To: Donovan Arnold
Cc: Paul Rumelhart; Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Thought Police: Re:Senator Larry Craig Challenges Guilty Plea

   
  Donovan wrote:
         

    But again, I ask, was the police officer sitting on the scraper for hours with his pants up or down? Either way, it would seem like an odd thing to do, and could be seen as an invitation for people to look in and see why a guy is sitting in a stall with pants up/down for hours. 

     

     

    This question appears to my layman's perspective in understanding the law to be a important.  If the police officer was sitting in the stall clothed, what invasion of privacy occurred if someone gazed at him through the crack in the door?  And even if he was not fully clothed, the officer may have exhibited signals that he was interested in some sort of "meeting," thus inviting someone to make "contact."  It seems logical to assume that someone looking for an "encounter" in a restroom would not just target anyone in a stall, but look for someone who was giving signs they were interested in an encounter.  The officer made statements he was aware of the sorts of signals given to indicate someone was interested in a "meeting."  We may never know the full and truthful facts regarding these questions in this case, given the case may never go to trial, or even if so, the facts may remain questionable; and both Craig and the police officer may have reasons to not fully
 disclose all the details of what occurred.  

     

    Ted Moffett

     

  
 




       
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