[Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 14 21:01:21 PDT 2007


Matt....congrats to you and yours.

Have a great weekend!

J  :]


From: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:14:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC








J,

I see your back to your own antics again, but yet again don't know what the hell your talking about. 

Try this one for size. The "evil ccers" have employed me numerous times, not because I am one, but the fact that "they" are not that bad, and I provide a honest and valuable service. Plumbers? Yup local. Carpenters? Sure. Carpet men? You bet. Locksmiths? Still local.

So it is you that again has no concept of what is going on. Only your hate driven agenda towards this church motivates you. It's about time you find a new hobby.

Matt

From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:47:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC








Em, it was YOU that stated there was a group with money and a group with property....YOU prove Mr. Beebe didn't realize who he was selling to.  As far as "some people might be given gainful employment"...well, yes!  Of course CC hires kirkers all the time.  Thing is, they BRING THEM IN TO TOWN and then hire them.  All this does in increase the kirker population/employment and absolutely none of those from town (i.e. non-kirkers) gets work.  And since every one of these properties are claimed for "religious purposes" they DON'T PAY TAXES!!!

So where is the "up side to all this"?

J  :]


From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:28:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC










And I'm afraid that trotting out the trite trope does 
little to back up your argument, Ms. Ford. If you were to provide a little 
documentation to back up your pet conspiracy theory (or even make it clear what 
it is that the dastardly conspirators are plotting other than the standard "all 
my enemies are evil and out to get us shtick) it might hasten the scales 
falling from my eyes. So far the worst thing that I can see is that some 
property might be developed, some homes (and a church) might be built, and some 
people might be given gainful employment. Perhaps you would care to point out 
exactly where the down side comes in?
 
g

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  J 
  Ford 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:42 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of 
  Developers of the Palouse LLC
  
"None is as blind as the one who refuses to see the truth in 
  front of him."

Take the blinders off, Mr. C.  

J 
  :]



  
    
    From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 
    14 Sep 2007 07:02:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of 
    Developers of the Palouse LLC


    J:] says:
     
    "... Rick Beebe played the sympathy card when he 
    "disclosed" that he had been "tricked into selling" to a group he supposedly 
    did not realize were the true buyers."
     
    I don't know if that is true or not. Perhaps you could 
    provide a cite. I don't know Mr. Bebee well but he doesn't strike me as a 
    fool. Perhaps you are wrong about his purported claim or perhaps he thought 
    he was selling the property to Mr. Hoffman, a man who does buy property in 
    downtown Moscow that isn't connected with your favorite bump in the night. 
    Either way I'm still sure that there is no requirement that you or the 
    community at large be kept apprised of the ins and outs of the transaction. 
    As to where the money comes from this to is not a matter for public scrutiny 
    either. Did you look into the particulars regarding the latest LDS 
    construction project on War Bonnet or the Baptists effort on Fairview and 
    report breathlessly on their financial arrangements? Who sold the property 
    to who and where the money to pay for it came from? I thought 
    not.
     
    "Its only a matter of a year and I can GUARANTEE you that NSA will 
    be requesting the City Council to allow them to expand to over 200 students, 
    the current amount allowed."
     
    I don't know what this has to do with the topic at 
    hand but, I would have to say that I don't see why they should wait a year. 
    They have complied with the city councils requirements for parking and 
    should be allowed to immediately expand to their maximum allowed 
    enrolment.
     
    What all of this looks like to me is various 
    combinations of people with land, money, expertise and desire combining to 
    try and make a living and make Moscow a better place to live while 
    they're at it. I don't see where guilt or innocence enters into the 
    picture.
     
    g
    

    
      ----- 
      Original Message ----- 
      From: 
      J 
      Ford 
      To: 
      vision2020 at moscow.com 
      Sent: 
      Friday, September 14, 2007 5:30 AM
      Subject: 
      Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC
      
Ah, yes...generally the scenario you set up is fine and 
      dandy.  But, Rick Beebe played the sympathy card when he "disclosed" 
      that he had been "tricked into selling" to a group he supposedly did not 
      realize were the true buyers.  AND, if it truly was a sale that was 
      on the up-and-up, why did it go through one buyer before it went to the 
      "real" buyer, that being CC or Dougie?  Why the subterfuges?  
      And if this "group with money to spend" truly has money to spend, why the 
      scramble for the members to raise more and more by selling and down 
      sizing?  Most buyers would have the sense to have money in pocket 
      before a sale goes through so they don't get caught with their pants 
      around the ankles and nothing to show for it.  Dougie has been on a 
      campaign all over his "kingdom" raising funds and getting people to commit 
      to both the buying of the property across from Gritman for his "cathedral" 
      as well as getting new kirker blood into Moscow and into his new 
      development on N Polk.  And now he wants to change the PUD for THAT 
      property in order to allow for more borders to get into those new 
      houses.

Its only a matter of a year and I can GUARANTEE you that 
      NSA will be requesting the City Council to allow them to expand to over 
      200 students, the current amount allowed.

And just to clear the 
      air, since you seem to have all the answers - why is it that Rick and his 
      bunch are now fronting the new development in the County?  Last year, 
      the petition was filed by Mike Hoffman.  Why the switch?  
      Hmmm.......seems like a lot of back-room-fanagaling going on between those 
      two groups.

But, like you said - one group has money and another 
      has property....all this looks innocent to you?

J :]



      
        
        From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; 
        vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:18:46 
        -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the 
        Palouse LLC


        So what, exactly is there to be unhappy about? A 
        group with money to spend and a group with property to sell got 
        together and transacted a mutually agreeable business deal. I don't 
        think that it's currently necessary to poll the community before 
        finalizing this kind of arrangement, at least not yet. With out a 
        change in city governance this November it's hard telling what we might 
        end up being subjected to. It's not difficult imagining Nancy, queen of 
        the naught and her like minded henchmen being only too happy to review 
        private transactions and withhold their stamp of approval from anything 
        that doesn't meet their anti growth, anti business, left wing 
        agenda.
         
        g
        
          ----- 
          Original Message ----- 
          From: 
          J Ford 
          To: 
          vision2020 at moscow.com 
          Sent: 
          Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:12 AM
          Subject: 
          Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC
          
Which absolutely proves what I was told earlier this 
          week - Rick Beebe DID know who was buying his property across from 
          Gritman.  He figured if he played the poor fool that was jerked 
          off by Dougie and his bunch, people would look the other way on his 
          other projects.  In other words, he's playing the "sympathy 
          card".  Too bad, Rick - people so know what 
          you did and are NOT happy. 

Wonder if the IRS is aware that 
          you're back to your old tricks?  

J :]



          
            
            From: dfrench at moscow.com
To: whayman at roadrummer.com; 
            vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:34:11 
            -0700
Subject: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the 
            Palouse LLC


            The answer is:
             
            Larry Germer, Richard Beebe, Jeff Eisinger, Karl 
            Tyler, according to records filed with the Idaho Secretary of State 
            
            (here's the link: http://www.accessidaho.org/public/sos/corp/search.html?ScriptForm.startstep=viewentity&ScriptForm.startScriptForm.start.ScriptStepView.viewentityFILEvalue=W46038 )
             
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:52:04 -0700
From: 
            "Warren Hayman" <whayman at roadrunner.com>
Subject: 
            Re: [Vision2020] Amended Agenda for the Latah 
            County
ZoningCommission Special and Regular Meetings September 
            19, 2007
To: "Bruce and Jean Livingston" <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>,
<vision2020 at moscow.com>, 
            "Aimee Shipman" <ashipman at latah.id.us>
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Does anyone know 
            who Developers of the Palouse, LLC is?

Warren 
          Hayman


          
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