[Vision2020] Iran/was Nuke Attack

deb debismith at moscow.com
Tue Sep 11 21:05:37 PDT 2007


It certainly sounds like the same rhetoric to me. And to the Iranians, from 
all indications...
Debi R-S

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Iran/was Nuke Attack


> Just to be clear, I'm saying I think plans to attack Iran are well past 
> the
> hypothetical planning stage you refer to.  I'm saying that the rhetoric
> we've seen from this administration, particularly Cheney, is similar to 
> the
> buildup to the Iraq War, and that they are actively planning to attack 
> Iran.
>
> Sunil
>
>
>>From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
>>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:43:55 -0700
>>
>>Sunil - No, I don't think this puts one in the category of conspiracy
>>theorists.  I'd be surprised if at some point in time the idea of bombing
>>Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, pick your favorite terrorist nation, has not come
>>up for discussion.  Call it "Brainstorming" if you will (and please, those
>>of you who would attempt some juvenile dig at "brain" and "this
>>administration" try to restrain yourselves . . .)  and most rational 
>>people
>>would admit that these discussions have occurred.  In fact I think any and
>>all warfare options have been, are, and will be discussed by the current
>>administration, and these options have been and will be considered by any
>>and all administrations in a time of conflict.
>>
>>The point being discussed is "nukes are being moved from point A to point 
>>B
>>within the US -  this means they are going to bomb Iran".  This is
>>irrational conclusion jumping and is a classic and distinctive
>>characteristic of Conspiracy Theorists.
>>
>>GS
>>
>>On 9/8/07, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > For the moment let's set aside a nuclear attack.  Are those of us who
>> > think
>> > this administration is contemplating bombing Iran conspiracy theorists?
>> >
>> > Sunil
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
>> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
>> > >Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 18:44:37 -0700
>> > >
>> > >I'm saying I think that jumping from the transport of 6 nuclear tipped
>> > >cruise missiles (from one Air Force base to another Air Force Base -
>>both
>> > >in
>> > >the US and both, coincidentally, the only Air Force Bases that 
>> > >maintain
>> > and
>> > >operate B52's) to "they're gonna nuke Iran" is a conspiracy theorists
>> > dream
>> > >of the most liquid kind.  How and why this happened has yet to be
>> > >discovered, and I'll wait to hear what those in charge of the
>> > investigation
>> > >have to say, instead of immediately reaching into the "insanity bag"
>>for
>> > an
>> > >answer.
>> > >
>> > >If I were to buy into the premise that the US was launching a nuclear
>> > arms
>> > >attack on Iran, I'd be thinking "submarine" long before a B52 anyway .
>>.
>> > .
>> > >
>> > >GS
>> > >
>> > >On 9/8/07, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Glenn,
>> > > >
>> > > > Are you saying that only a conspiracy theorist would think the Bush
>> > > > Administration plans to bomb Iran?  Or are you saying that only a
>> > > > conspiracy
>> > > > theorist would link the B-52 incident with such a plan?
>> > > >
>> > > > Sunil
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
>> > > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
>> > > > >Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:04:43 -0700
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Ellen and J :]    I'm sorry - I really didn't think there was a
>>need
>> > >for
>> > > > me
>> > > > >to explain the Conspiracy Theory tongue-in-cheekiness to the two 
>> > > > >of
>> > >you.
>> > > > >Sad sad sad . . .
>> > > > >
>> > > > >GS
>> > > > >
>> > > > >On 9/8/07, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Nnniiiicccceeee!  Well done!  Had me laughing for over five
>> > minutes.
>> > > > >You
>> > > > > > ARE good!  :)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > And no, I am not kidding.  This was funny!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > J  :]
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>> > > > > > >To: vpschwaller at gmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
>> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:02:01 -0700
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Well, golly gee, Glenn. . . . how do you suppose the U.S.
>> > Military
>> > > > gets
>> > > > > > >material from point A to point B. . . Fed-ex?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Ellen Roskovich
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >From:  "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
>> > > > > > >To:  vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > > > > >Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
>> > > > > > >Date:  Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:21:36 -0700
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >"It is just too coincidental to be a mere accident. . . 
>> > > > > > >Nuclear
>> > > > tipped
>> > > > > > >cruise missiles may be on their way to Iran now as we speak."
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Ya think the nuke attack will be from a lone B52 taking off
>>from
>> > a
>> > > > >grassy
>> > > > > > >knoll?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >GS
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >On 9/6/07, Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >All,
>> > > > > > >I haven't posted anything for quite a while but when I read in
>> > the
>> > > > > > >Spokesman Review this morning that nuclear tipped cruise
>>missiles
>> > > > were
>> > > > > > >transported by a B52 across the U.S. today, I knew it was
>> > >important.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >It is just too coincidental to be a mere accident, especially
>> > while
>> > > > at
>> > > > > > >the same time rhetoric from the White House is rapidly 
>> > > > > > >building
>> > > > against
>> > > > > > >Iran.  It would be insane to use  nuclear weapons against
>>Iran.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Unfortunately,  I believe there is already sufficient proof
>>that
>> > > > sanity
>> > > > > > >is not prevalent in the executive branch.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >If it is possible for Congress to remove Bush's ability to
>>start
>> > a
>> > > > war
>> > > > > > >with Iran it should be an immediate priority. For ourselves,
>>for
>> > >our
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >children, for every living breathing person on earth. We must
>> > work
>> > > > > > >toward that goal. We must stop the insanity now.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is absolutely necessary in
>> > >order
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > >prevent dangerous precedents from being set that could be used
>>by
>> > > > >future
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >presidents to continue to destroy our democracy.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is absolutely necessary 
>> > > > > > >now
>> > >that
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > >has been confirmed again and again that Bush know that Sadaam
>>had
>> > >no
>> > > > > > >weapons of mass destruction.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >The propaganda machine would have you accept an illegal war of
>> > > > > > >aggression in Iraq by calling it a "war against terrorism." 
>> > > > > > >The
>> > > > > > >propaganda machine would have you accept the use of tactical
>> > >nuclear
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >weapons in Iran. Open your eyes before it is too late. War in
>> > Iran
>> > > > >would
>> > > > > > >be a catastrophe of epic proportions.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Nuclear tipped cruise missiles may be on their way to Iran now
>>as
>> > >we
>> > > > > > speak.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >See
>> > > > > > >http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18325.htm. 
>> > > > > > >Even
>> > if
>> > > > > > >you don't believe this to be true, at least consider the
>> > >possibility
>> > > > > > >that those in power are counting on you to be too stupid and
>>too
>> > >lazy
>> > > > >to
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >discern the truth. Let's prove them wrong.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Jim Meyer
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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