[Vision2020] Iran/was Nuke Attack
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 10 12:08:04 PDT 2007
Just to be clear, I'm saying I think plans to attack Iran are well past the
hypothetical planning stage you refer to. I'm saying that the rhetoric
we've seen from this administration, particularly Cheney, is similar to the
buildup to the Iraq War, and that they are actively planning to attack Iran.
Sunil
>From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:43:55 -0700
>
>Sunil - No, I don't think this puts one in the category of conspiracy
>theorists. I'd be surprised if at some point in time the idea of bombing
>Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, pick your favorite terrorist nation, has not come
>up for discussion. Call it "Brainstorming" if you will (and please, those
>of you who would attempt some juvenile dig at "brain" and "this
>administration" try to restrain yourselves . . .) and most rational people
>would admit that these discussions have occurred. In fact I think any and
>all warfare options have been, are, and will be discussed by the current
>administration, and these options have been and will be considered by any
>and all administrations in a time of conflict.
>
>The point being discussed is "nukes are being moved from point A to point B
>within the US - this means they are going to bomb Iran". This is
>irrational conclusion jumping and is a classic and distinctive
>characteristic of Conspiracy Theorists.
>
>GS
>
>On 9/8/07, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > For the moment let's set aside a nuclear attack. Are those of us who
> > think
> > this administration is contemplating bombing Iran conspiracy theorists?
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> >
> > >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
> > >Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 18:44:37 -0700
> > >
> > >I'm saying I think that jumping from the transport of 6 nuclear tipped
> > >cruise missiles (from one Air Force base to another Air Force Base -
>both
> > >in
> > >the US and both, coincidentally, the only Air Force Bases that maintain
> > and
> > >operate B52's) to "they're gonna nuke Iran" is a conspiracy theorists
> > dream
> > >of the most liquid kind. How and why this happened has yet to be
> > >discovered, and I'll wait to hear what those in charge of the
> > investigation
> > >have to say, instead of immediately reaching into the "insanity bag"
>for
> > an
> > >answer.
> > >
> > >If I were to buy into the premise that the US was launching a nuclear
> > arms
> > >attack on Iran, I'd be thinking "submarine" long before a B52 anyway .
>.
> > .
> > >
> > >GS
> > >
> > >On 9/8/07, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Glenn,
> > > >
> > > > Are you saying that only a conspiracy theorist would think the Bush
> > > > Administration plans to bomb Iran? Or are you saying that only a
> > > > conspiracy
> > > > theorist would link the B-52 incident with such a plan?
> > > >
> > > > Sunil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
> > > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
> > > > >Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:04:43 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Ellen and J :] I'm sorry - I really didn't think there was a
>need
> > >for
> > > > me
> > > > >to explain the Conspiracy Theory tongue-in-cheekiness to the two of
> > >you.
> > > > >Sad sad sad . . .
> > > > >
> > > > >GS
> > > > >
> > > > >On 9/8/07, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nnniiiicccceeee! Well done! Had me laughing for over five
> > minutes.
> > > > >You
> > > > > > ARE good! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And no, I am not kidding. This was funny!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J :]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >To: vpschwaller at gmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:02:01 -0700
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Well, golly gee, Glenn. . . . how do you suppose the U.S.
> > Military
> > > > gets
> > > > > > >material from point A to point B. . . Fed-ex?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ellen Roskovich
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
> > > > > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nuke Attack!! (was Impeach Now!)
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:21:36 -0700
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"It is just too coincidental to be a mere accident. . . Nuclear
> > > > tipped
> > > > > > >cruise missiles may be on their way to Iran now as we speak."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ya think the nuke attack will be from a lone B52 taking off
>from
> > a
> > > > >grassy
> > > > > > >knoll?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >GS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On 9/6/07, Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >All,
> > > > > > >I haven't posted anything for quite a while but when I read in
> > the
> > > > > > >Spokesman Review this morning that nuclear tipped cruise
>missiles
> > > > were
> > > > > > >transported by a B52 across the U.S. today, I knew it was
> > >important.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >It is just too coincidental to be a mere accident, especially
> > while
> > > > at
> > > > > > >the same time rhetoric from the White House is rapidly building
> > > > against
> > > > > > >Iran. It would be insane to use nuclear weapons against
>Iran.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Unfortunately, I believe there is already sufficient proof
>that
> > > > sanity
> > > > > > >is not prevalent in the executive branch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >If it is possible for Congress to remove Bush's ability to
>start
> > a
> > > > war
> > > > > > >with Iran it should be an immediate priority. For ourselves,
>for
> > >our
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >children, for every living breathing person on earth. We must
> > work
> > > > > > >toward that goal. We must stop the insanity now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is absolutely necessary in
> > >order
> > > > to
> > > > > > >prevent dangerous precedents from being set that could be used
>by
> > > > >future
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >presidents to continue to destroy our democracy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is absolutely necessary now
> > >that
> > > > it
> > > > > > >has been confirmed again and again that Bush know that Sadaam
>had
> > >no
> > > > > > >weapons of mass destruction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >The propaganda machine would have you accept an illegal war of
> > > > > > >aggression in Iraq by calling it a "war against terrorism." The
> > > > > > >propaganda machine would have you accept the use of tactical
> > >nuclear
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >weapons in Iran. Open your eyes before it is too late. War in
> > Iran
> > > > >would
> > > > > > >be a catastrophe of epic proportions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Nuclear tipped cruise missiles may be on their way to Iran now
>as
> > >we
> > > > > > speak.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >See
> > > > > > >http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18325.htm. Even
> > if
> > > > > > >you don't believe this to be true, at least consider the
> > >possibility
> > > > > > >that those in power are counting on you to be too stupid and
>too
> > >lazy
> > > > >to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >discern the truth. Let's prove them wrong.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Jim Meyer
> > > > > > >
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