[Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment

Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
Tue Sep 4 15:43:40 PDT 2007


Dear Roger,

As my metaphysics professor, Stephen Schiffer (currently Chair of the Philosophy Department at NYU) used to say: "Believe it if you can!"

Not to be disrespectful but it isn't exactly a rush to judgment if it is coming on the heals of a guilty plea and a resignation.

Best, Joe

---- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote: 

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You might also peer inside a stall to see if it is vacant. Sometimes the door sticks shut. I have done that  and I am sure not looking for sex.
Roger
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From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:47:59 -0700
To: Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment

> You know, I'd feel a lot better about this if he was actually caught 
> having sex in the restroom, or caught on tape giving money for sex, or 
> something else more-or-less unambiguous.
> 
> There might be reasons why you would stand outside the door of someone's 
> stall, especially if you were waiting for one to free up.  The officer 
> might have imagined that he was trying to peer in at him, when instead 
> he was lost in thought.  You might put your roller bag in front of the 
> stall door not to attempt to block what you want to do from sight, but 
> because there is no other fricking place to put it where you can still 
> see it.  You might tap your damn foot out of simple boredom.  You might 
> not even be aware you are doing it.  You might accidentally touch the 
> foot of the person in the stall next to you, especially if you are a 
> larger guy that needs to shed a few pounds.  You might reach under the 
> partition for toilet paper, or you might have been doing something with 
> your bags that are sitting in front of you and the gesture was misconstrued.
> 
> I do realize that he pled guilty to their charge, but when you are 
> hoping that it might blow over - and when you are apparently trying to 
> keep it from your family as well as the media, you might plead guilty to 
> try to make it go away.
> 
> I have no idea if he was really guilty or not, but I think this thing 
> has snowballed out of control.  I don't particularly agree with this 
> guy's politics, and I'm certainly no real supporter of his, but I think 
> he's getting the short end of the stick.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Joe Campbell wrote:
> > That was the headline on the CNN website. I remember Roy Schieder talking about 
> > the seven stages of accepting death (or something like that) in "All that Jazz." One 
> > stage was denial. Craig appears to be going through the seven stages of denial.
> >
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