[Vision2020] And the Count Continues . . .

Tue Oct 30 15:52:55 PDT 2007

Saundra,

Sorry to hear you say that. I have though. I recently publicly gave an apology to a member of MCA whom I wronged. I have mentioned that MCA is not anti-growth. Also Joes and Garys conversations, I have seen go overboard, which I also disapproved of. I am not perfect however. 

I would just like to see a civil election. One that BOTH sides can feel proud of.

Take care
Matt

From: sslund at roadrunner.com
To: msolomon at moscow.com; mattd2107 at hotmail.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:01:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the Count Continues . . .

Hi Matt and Mark,

Matt, I absolutely agree with Mark:  please quit singling
out only those you disagree with to receive your slaps on the hand while
remaining mute on the truly deplorable tactics of those with whom you share
more political views.  It’s unseemly, it hurts your credibility, and
it’s downright unfair.

IOW, quit being part of the problem and start being part
of the solution!

For those who’ve not seen the Trib’s coverage of
Moscow’s latest Kirker whack job:

Dave Glasebrook, holding the yellow sign, staged a campaign protest and
triggered a 

counter-protest at the corner of Main and
Third streets in downtown Moscow on Monday evening.

 Moscow city politics
take a turn for the personal

Sign-wielding
protester takes aim at three incumbents and draws response from wife of one
candidate and councilor

By David Johnson 

Tuesday, October 30, 2007

MOSCOW - The campaign for
city council here took what some were calling a tawdry turn Monday evening when
a Moscow man displayed a sign alleging bigotry against three incumbents.

"This is a
Christian protest, not a vote protest," Dave Glasebrook said. "My big
problem is that here in Moscow there's been 20 years' worth of strife with Doug
Wilson and Christ Church."

Standing on the
sidewalk at the intersection of Main and Third streets, Glasebrook carried a
yellow sign that read: "Vote the Bigot Party - Ament, Lamar, Pall."
He said the slogan was a sarcastic way to raise public awareness.

Aaron Ament, Tom Lamar
and Linda Pall are incumbents running for re-election. Glasebrook claimed the
three are part of a continued campaign by city government to harass Wilson, his
church and New Saint Andrews College located in downtown Moscow.

"If I stand up
and say Christian men in America need to get on their knees and pray in order
to change how America is, in order to change what's going on in Moscow, Lewiston
and Idaho, people won't understand that," Glasebrook said.

So he decided to take
to the street with his sign, attracting the attention of motorists and
pedestrians including Lamar's wife, Aly Lamar, who stopped to mount a
counter-demonstration.

"I'm here because
I was riding my bicycle home on Main Street and I saw Dave holding this sign
and it really took me by surprise that he was calling my husband, as well as
other candidates, a bigot," Lamar said, explaining she returned with one
of her husband's campaign signs to stand next to Glasebrook.

Aly Lamar said
Glasebrook told her a number of reasons for his protest that boiled down to
claiming her husband voted with Ament and Pall on various issues against
Wilson, Christ Church and NSA. "So I discussed that with him a little bit,
and got worked up and started crying and frustrated and wanted to do
something." After realizing she and Glasebrook couldn't agree, Lamar said
she decided to go on the offensive.

"So I thought if
he's going to have signs and visit with passers-by saying Tom is a bigot I
wanted to be here to let them know, in fact, that Tom is not a bigot,"
Lamar said.

Glasebrook claimed
Ament, in particular, overtly tried to force NSA out of the downtown area. He
said he was staging the protest on his own, not for or at the behest of Wilson,
or anyone associated with Christ Church or NSA. "This is to open people's
eyes, saying look at the bigotry in Moscow. Look at what's going on." He
said the city council is "not getting after the Muslims" or any other
faith, and that amounts to religious bigotry.

"I just hope God
will use this sign and do something," Glasebrook said. "I can't
change Aaron's heart. I can't make him do something. I can't convince Tom to do
something. But I can get on my knees and I can pray that God will lead them to
make right decisions, not just decisions that are working against one group of
Christians in town."

Ament showed up and
offered a terse take on Glasebrook's protest. "I think of the two of us,
the one that's guilty (of bigotry) is the one holding the sign," Ament
said. "My major crime is that I don't tolerate intolerance and that's what
I've been hung with. And I will never tolerate intolerance."

Pall could not be
reached for comment.

---

Johnson may be
contacted at 

deveryone at potlatch.com
or (208) 883-0564.

JMHO,

Saundra Lund

Moscow, ID

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
people to do nothing.

~ Edmund Burke

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through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt,
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From:
vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Solomon

Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:04 AM

To: Matt Decker; Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the Count Continues . . .

Matt,

Up until Doug and Dave's antics of yesterday, I would have
agreed with you. Until I hear GMA and their candidates disavow Doug and Dave's
approach to elections in Moscow then the show fits. Sadly.

m.

At 6:55 AM -0700 10/30/07, Matt Decker wrote:

Tom,

Any time you want to stick with the facts and quit the smear tactics would be
great.

Matt

From: thansen at moscow.com

To: vision2020 at moscow.com

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:30:34 -0700

Subject: [Vision2020] And the Count Continues . . .

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)

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