[Vision2020] The Human Toll

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Tue Oct 23 15:35:18 PDT 2007


"The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of
the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we'd
have to do once we got there. You'd probably have to put some new government
in place. It's not clear what kind of government that would be, how long
you'd have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining
the outcome of the struggle over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes me as
a classic definition of a quagmire." - Dick Cheney, 1991 
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3
 
And Dick Cheney again in 1994
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a8_1186873756

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"I think Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the president made a big mistake in
justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of
mass destruction." - Gerald R. Ford (July 28, 2004)
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Ford_Iraq_Big_Mistake.mp3

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>From the October 29, 2007 edition of the Army Times - 			

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U.S. service members who died while supporting combat operations in Iraq,
confirmed by the Defense Department from October 12 through October 18:

Army Spc. Micheal D. Brown, 20, of Williamsburg, Kansas; assigned to the 1st
Battalion, 1st Aviation Regiment, 1st Combat Aviation Brigade, 1st Infantry
Division, Fort Riley, Kan.

Navy Seaman Anamarie Sannicolas Camacho, 20, of Panama City, Florida;
assigned to U.S. Naval Support Activity Bahrain.

Army Staff Sgt. Jarred S. Fontenot, 35, of Port Barre, Louisiana; assigned
to 2nd Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd
Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colorado.

Marine Cpl. Erik T. Garoutte, 22, of Santee, California; assigned to 1st
Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team Company, Marine Corps Security Force
Battalion, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Norfolk, Virginia.

Army Spc. Wayne M. Geiger, 23, of Lone Pine, California; assigned to 3rd
Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment, Vilseck, Germany.

Navy Seaman Genesia Mattril Gresham, 19, of Lithonia, Georgia; assigned to
U.S. Naval Support Activity Bahrain. 

Army Spc. Vincent A. Madero, 22, of Port Hueneme, California; assigned to
2nd Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 1st
Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas.

October 12 - October 18
Killed: 7; wounded in action: 105

March 19, 2003 - October 18, 2007 
Killed: 3,818; wounded in action: 28,276

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No U.S. service members died while supporting combat operations in
Afghanistan, confirmed by the Defense Department from October 12 through
October 18:

October 12 - October 18
Killed: 0; Wounded in action: 30

Oct. 10, 2001 - October 18, 2007
Killed: 445; Wounded in action: 1,682

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National Guard (In Federal Status) and Reserve Mobilized 
(as of October 17, 2007) 
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2007/d20071017ngr.pdf

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And the beat goes on . . . 

"Bring 'em Home"
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Bring_em_home.mp3

"If you love this land of the free 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Bring them back from overseas 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

It will make the politicians sad, I know 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
They wanna tangle with their foe 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

They wanna test their grand theories 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
With the blood of you and me 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

Now we'll give no more brave young lives 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
For the gleam in someone's eyes 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The men will cheer and the boys will shout 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah and we will all turn out 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The church bells will ring with joy 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
To welcome our darlin' girls and boys 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

We will lift our voice and sound 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah, when Johnny comes marching home 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home." 

Pro patria, 

Tom Hansen 
Moscow, Idaho

"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil
and steady dedication of a lifetime." -- Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.
 








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