[Vision2020] Climate Scientists Invite Debate Online

[Ted Moffett]

Saundra et. al.

Thanks for your compliment.

As for the other recent comments, some Vision2020 participants do not read
very carefully.

But at least Roger Falen noted that I posted an article that was critical of
the global warming scientific consensus, that came from the Realclimate web
site.  Realclimate is open for public comment.  You will find opinions
galore on this website, from numerous points of view, though it is devoted
to scientific information, discussion and debate, not political or economic
oriented discussion.  The "side" of this website is called "Science."

The comment about only posting information to support my "side" (which is
what the best science currently indicates, given the consensus in the
scientific community), appeared oblivious to the article I posted that
attacked the very scientific consensus on global warming I have been
defending.

But Roger, did you read the report from the Union of Concerned Scientists on
solutions to global warming, focusing on the USA Northeast, that I have
referenced on Vision2020 several times?  This report was written integrating
the work of economists and climate scientists, to find realistic solutions
using both the public and private sector.  I am not "not looking at market
driven ways to solve the problem" nor have I implied that "we should go back
to the horse and buggy or to the cave."  I could document this claim
extensively.

You do a disservice to Vision2020 by making these kind of false implications
that obviously are not based on a careful reading of what someone has posted
to the list.

Ted Moffett

On 10/22/07, Saundra Lund <sslund at roadrunner.com> wrote:

>  Hi Ted,
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> I want to *thank you* for bringing us so much informative stuff to read!
> Whether I agree or not, I never fail to learn from the primary sources you
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> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Ted Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2007 3:39 AM
> *To:* Paul Rumelhart
> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com; J Ford
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Climate Scientists Invite Debate Online
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> Paul, Roger et. al.
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> Given I suggested you inform climate scientists I have been referencing
> (i. e. the majority of climate scientists involved in the conclusions of the
> IPCC, the Union of Concerned Scientists, insofar as they comment on climate
> change, the Stern Report, etc.) of the errors of their climate models, you
> might find this web site, welcoming discussion online with climate
> scientists, an easy way to follow my suggestion.  I'm not sure
> how submitting comments works on this website.  But I'll include an
> "article" submitted, offered at Realclimate, at a web link below, that I
> found interesting, on "Suppressing Dissent" in the political, media,
> economic and scientific web of discussion on global warming.  You, along
> with Roger Falen, will find ammunition in this article for your
> skepticism about the "consensus" scientists working on global warming.
> Consider that the climate scientists who sponsor Realclimate fall into the
> "IPCC' mold, as far as I can tell.  So they are sponsoring a web site that
> allows their own work to be sliced and diced.  One way or the other, this
> web site is an amazing resource to study the subject of climate science,
> from beginners to Phds.:
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> http://www.realclimate.org
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> If you would like to contact us, suggest a topic to be covered, contribute
> a relevant commentary, or be part of this effort on a more permanent basis,
> please email RealClimate <contrib-at-realclimate.org> (replace -at- with
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> Link to article "Suppressing Dissent" found at Realclimate:
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> http://gerberatetra.blogspot.com/2007/05/suppressing-dissent.html
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