[Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
Carl Westberg
carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 14 13:54:29 PDT 2007
And gosh Donovan, you have no idea how much we appreciate the all-knowing,
about any topic under the sun Donovan Arnold teaching us. What an honor.
Carl Westberg Jr.
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
>Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:42:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Umm, OK Scott, you show me a Christian that believes that Christ is not the
>way to be saved, or believes some other method is the way to salvation, and
>I will show you a non-Christian.
>
> I didn't invent Christianity, it isn't mine to define. I am just trying
>to explain it to thick skulled individuals that don't comprehend that
>Christians believe that Christ is the one and only true path to God, and
>its' validity is what it is regardless of how offensive it may or may not
>be to non-believers.
>
> If you want to claim that Christians don't believe in Christ or what he
>did, I wish you luck in persuading others of the acclimation.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
>
>
>Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Donovan wrote below that "[Coulter] believes that all religions
>outside of Christianity are in error, as do all Christians."
>
>Just for clarification..."all Christians" translates to "all Donovan
>certified Christians".
>
>-Scott
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:50:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
>
> Joe,
>
> She was reiterating the Dogma of Christianity. There is no salvation
>without the acceptance of Christ as your savior. If you don't understand
>that fundamental fact, or don't believe it, you obviously are not a
>Christian. It is core dogma of the religion.
>
> A mean vindictive person would wish for Jews to die, or parish. She said
>she wished the opposite, that they would accept Christ so that they can be
>saved. That sounds like more of a loving statement than a hateful one to
>me.
>
> She was not singling out Jews, the commentator was because he was
>Jewish, she believes that all religions outside of Christianity are in
>error, as do all Christians. I think you will also find that followers of
>the Jewish and Muslim faiths likewise believe that followers of any
>religion other than their own faith is also in error. Christians want all
>people be saved, even if it is considered politically incorrect to do so.
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
>Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Donovan wrote: "Ann Coulter did not say Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists,
>all
>other non-Christians were worthless, or inferior for their beliefs.
>
>She said that Christianity was Judaism "perfected." How does that not
>entail
>that Judaism is inferior to Christianity?
>
>Sorry but I'm catching up on e-mail!
>
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
>---- Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>=============
>Ann Coulter should say, "Religious conflict and war is good, and that some
>people should not be saved."?
>
>I think this is rather absurd that people are making a big deal of this.
>Ann Coulter did not say Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, all other
>non-Christians were worthless, or inferior for their beliefs. She didn't
>say other shouldn't be allowed to practice their religion. What she said
>was that the world would be better off if the entire world was Christian.
>Which from an empirical point of view, the world would be better off if it
>was all one religion. Secondly, of course Christians want all others to be
>Christians, that is a fundamental belief of Christians that only Christians
>can be saved. It is also the belief of many religions that their religion
>is the better, and/or only true religion. I am Catholic, the largest and
>most diverse church in the world, and our creed specifically states that
>the Holy Roman Catholic Church is the "One and Only True Church".
>
>If she said all Jews and non-Christians should die, and only Christians are
>deserving of rights, that would be outrageous. But to expect Ann Coulter's
>statements to say the opposite is true; the world is better off if it has
>religious conflict and we should want others to suffer eternal damnation,
>is suppose to be a more of an acceptable statement?
>
>I think she was kind of set up with that question. It didn't matter which
>way she answered.
>
>Best,
>
>Donovan
>
>Ted Moffett wrote:
>
>All-
>
>Ann Coulter's books sell big time... She's laughing all the way to the
>bank. Carl Westberg is right on the money (no pun intended) about Coulter
>being "pure show business." The more outrageous her comments, the more
>publicity. It's so obvious she's deliberately aiming to upset people with
>extreme political incorrectness.
>
>What is disturbing is that many people really believe what she advocates.
>Millions do believe that the US would be better off if we were all
>Christians. Correct? What is more shocking than Coulter's comments, is that
>she is supported by a sizable fan base. She definitely speaks to a large
>percentage of the US public that admires her frank expression of views that
>they sympathize with.
>
>She is merely a symptom of a much broader problem in US society.
>
>Ted Moffett
>
>On 10/12/07, keely emerinemix wrote: This is the same Ann Coulter who dated
>Joseph Guccione, publisher of that paragon of Christian virtue, Penthouse
>magazine. Miz Coulter is a nutcase, and I think the orderlies need to find
>stronger straps.
>
>keely
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
>To: joekc at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:33:59 -0700
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
>
>Ann Coulter is totally nuts! "Perfected"? "Fast Track"? What is that!!!!???
>Who buys this stuff?
>
>J :]
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:46:38 -0700
> > From: joekc at adelphia.net
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
> >
> > Conservative commentator and best-selling author Ann Coulter may find
>herself in the midst of a controversy for comments Monday suggesting
>America would be better if everyone was Christian.
> >
> > Asked by CNBC host Donny Deutsch what the U.S. looks like in her dreams,
>Coulter said it would look like the Republican National Convention in 2004
> >
> > "People were happy," she said, according to a transcript provided to CNN
>by CNBC. "They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America."
> >
> > When Deutsch responded, "It would be better if we were all Christian?"
>Coulter said "Yeah."
> >
> > Deutsch, himself Jewish, continued to press Coulter on her remarks,
>asking, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians
>then?"
> >
> > "Yeah," Coulter responded, adding "Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of
>a fast track."
> >
> > "You can't possibly believe that," Deutsch responded. "You can't
>possibly. You're too educated."
> >
> > "Do you know what Christianity is?" Coulter replied. "See, we believe
>your religion, but you have to obey. We have the fast track program."
> >
> > Later in the interview Deutsch asked Coulter if she doesn't want any
>Jews in the world, Coulter responded, "No, we think — we just want Jews
>to be perfected, as they say."
> >
> > "Wow, you didn't really say that, did you," Deutsch said.
> >
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