[Vision2020] Are you enabling extremism?

Kai Eiselein, editor editor at lataheagle.com
Mon Oct 1 13:16:47 PDT 2007


Ted,
I can't believe you've never heard of the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) or the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), both of which engage in attacks against entities they disagree with.  Perhaps you've forgotten the string of arsons that took place from the 90's and into 2001 in Oregon and Washington in which the ELF claimed responsibility? Or the arrests in 2006 of several members of ELF in connection with those arsons? Anyone who is willing to torch a building is willing to kill anyone inside.
I must have struck a nerve, since you are making demands rather than engaging in debate. From your posts about global warming, typhoons and such, I know you are perfectly capable of finding information on the web. Quit feigning ignorance/stupidity, it doesn't become you.
I'll not waste my time digging up information that has been well publicized and is readily available  just because you demand it.
Debate is the art of point-counter point, Ted. Not demand, counter demand.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ted Moffett 
  To: Kai Eiselein, editor 
  Cc: Andreas Schou ; Paul Rumelhart ; Vision2020 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Are you enabling extremism?



  Kai et. al.

  Will you please offer examples of what you call "eco-terrorism," engaged in by what you described as "on the left are extremist environmental groups," that have resulted in deliberately caused deaths by "fanatics willing to kill," as you phrased it, such as a terrorist bombing (a road side IED, or a car bomb, truck bomb, or bombing of a train or bus, etc.) of civilians would inflict?  This is a very serious charge, that should not be made casually..  I am not saying there are not examples of this, just asking you to provide well founded empirical documentation.  Please provide the name of the environmental group, document their affiliation with what you termed "the left" (please explain how you define "the left," and why they represent "the left," rather than just "left field"), and the date and details of the terrorist attack.  
   
  Ted Moffett
  ----
  Kai wrote:
   
     Most notably on the left are
    extremist environmental groups that engage in eco-terrorism. Using Dawkins 
    line of reasoning, anyone who is environmentaly friendly could be seen as
    supportive of eco-terrorism.
    Any belief, taken too far, can result in fanatical zealots willing to kill
    anyone opposed to their viewpoint. 
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