[Vision2020] Email Delays (was RE: Judge rules March schoo levy null and void)
Saundra Lund
sslund at roadrunner.com
Fri Nov 30 10:36:11 PST 2007
Hi Paul & Gary,
Paul, you're a techie-kind of guy, aren't you? Can you look at the header
of Gary's message to see where the delay was? I'm not sure how "header
literate" I am, but to me, it looks like Gary's post might have just sat on
Time Warner's mail server for a really long time.
Gary, I've been having the exact same problem with distressing regularity
since the switch to Time Warner/Roadrunner. Intermittently, things I send
or things sent to me are being delayed by hours, days, and even downright
disappearing altogether, and that's not just with V2020 posts. I've been
doing battle with Time Warner's Tier 3 technical support with this problem
for over a month. At least three times now I've been told they found the
problem and fixed it only to have the problem return (or perhaps continue)
within a very short time. In fact, I just realized their return call with a
status report is overdue -- they were supposed to call me back by last
night. <sigh>
I understand intermittent problems are apparently the worst to try to
troubleshoot, but this is getting plain ridiculous! I'm fed up enough that
I'm considering dumping their services completely, a process made more
attractive by the mailing we received earlier this week with nice price on
DirectTV bundled with DSL service from Verizon.
If someone else can look at the header and confirm that the problem is with
Time Warner/Roadrunner, my suggestion is to call them up and give them h*ll
. . . maybe you'll have better luck than I've had.
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
~ Edmund Burke
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:07 AM
To: g. crabtree
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void
I'm seeing this behavior, too. I was wondering if it was just
yahoo.com, but it appears to be more widespread than that.
Paul
g. crabtree wrote:
> Lest folks imagine that I'm running a little behind the pack, I posted
this
> reply on the 28th at 5:00 A.M. Is anyone else experiencing this sort of
lag
> in seeing their messages posted?
>
> g (at 5:45 A.M. 30 November)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>; "Donovan Arnold"
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void
>
>
>
>> "I understand from Darrell's email that he was instrumental in getting
>> the alternative school started. That's great - I'm glad he succeeded
>> there."
>>
>> Please be aware that "instrumental" was not by way of ranting and railing
>> and waving his arms wildly to and froe and not by writing emotionally
>> charged
>> screeds to V2020. Dr. Weitz purchased the property
>> and building that is the alternative school. He paid to have it made into
>> a
>> facility to serve the needs of a decidedly underserved portion of the
>> school
>> district. He graciously gave the greatly improved parcel to the MSD at no
>> charge.
>> His thanks?
>>
>> "This is not a reasonable, calm, concerned, mature man; this is a bully,
>> a professional gadfly, and a bit of an eccentric (she said, understating
>> her point in
>> the interest of civility).."
>>
>> Considering the reception his good deeds have garnered you might
>> wonder why he still bothers to fight for the needs of the non-collage
>> bound student. Despite what you read from MSD employees past and
>> present, and others with a vested interest in seeing the status quo
>> presented as the pinnacle of success, he still sees a need for improved
>> opportunity for a large group of Moscow's kids and puts himself out
>> there to see that they get it. What a bastard.
>>
>> g
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void
>>
>>
>>
>>> Then he should keep trying, but not by using methods that are ethically
>>> dubious. I don't find fault with his having a vision and wanting to see
>>> it through. I don't know that I agree with his vision myself, but it's
>>> certainly possible that I would change my mind if good arguments were
>>> presented to me on the subject.
>>>
>>> I understand from Darrell's email that he was instrumental in getting
>>> the alternative school started. That's great - I'm glad he succeeded
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul ask,
>>>>
>>>> "Has Dr. Weitz tried the more common sense route of involving himself
in
>>>>
>>>> the machinations of the school district in whatever way a private
>>>> citizen is able to in order to effect change? Has he made a proposal?
>>>>
>>>> Has he done the research and come up with a plan for adding these
>>>> classes? Has he presented it to the right people? Has he come up with
>>>>
>>>> funding for this plan? Has he tried to make his voice heard in the
>>>> right places? In short, has he done anything other than trying to
>>>> strong-arm the district by bringing a lawsuit?"
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he did Paul. For years. But MSD doesn't listen.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Donovan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> */Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, but the proper legal channels for adding more vo-tech
>>>> programs in the Moscow School District do not include suing said
>>>> district over the validity of a levy that passed earlier this year.
>>>> I
>>>> don't know what those channels are, but I'm pretty sure that the
>>>> levy is
>>>> a completely separate issue from them.
>>>>
>>>> Has Dr. Weitz tried the more common sense route of involving
>>>> himself in
>>>> the machinations of the school district in whatever way a private
>>>> citizen is able to in order to effect change? Has he made a
>>>> proposal?
>>>> Has he done the research and come up with a plan for adding these
>>>> classes? Has he presented it to the right people? Has he come up
>>>> with
>>>> funding for this plan? Has he tried to make his voice heard in the
>>>> right places? In short, has he done anything other than trying to
>>>> strong-arm the district by bringing a lawsuit?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>>> > Joe,
>>>> >
>>>> > You wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "If Weitz wants a vo-tech program he'd be better off asking me
>>>> to put
>>>> > forth the
>>>> > case for vo-tech -- for a fraction of what he's paying his
>>>> lawyers and
>>>> > with a
>>>> > greater chance of success since then the MSD won't think that
>>>> they are
>>>> > being
>>>> > blackmailed"
>>>> >
>>>> > If you feel you can provide such a service, what is stopping
>>>> you? You
>>>> > aren't holding out on the kids just to spite Weitz are you?
>>>> >
>>>> > How can it be blackmail if he is using the proper legal
>>>> channels, and
>>>> > winning?
>>>> >
>>>> > Best,
>>>> >
>>>> > Donovan
>>>> >
>>>> > */Joe Campbell /* wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Donovan,
>>>> >
>>>> > What does the law suit have to do with the lack of a vo-tech
>>>> program?
>>>> >
>>>> > If Weitz wants a vo-tech program he'd be better off asking me to
>>>> > put forth the
>>>> > case for vo-tech -- for a fraction of what he's paying his
lawyers
>>>> > and with a
>>>> > greater chance of success since then the MSD won't think that
they
>>>> > are being
>>>> > blackmailed. Folks don't respond well to blackmail.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Joe Campbell
>>>> >
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