[Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 30 08:07:25 PST 2007


I'm seeing this behavior, too.  I was wondering if it was just 
yahoo.com, but it appears to be more widespread than that.

Paul

g. crabtree wrote:
> Lest folks imagine that I'm running a little behind the pack, I posted this 
> reply on the 28th at 5:00 A.M. Is anyone else experiencing this sort of lag 
> in seeing their messages posted?
>
> g (at 5:45 A.M. 30 November)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>; "Donovan Arnold" 
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void
>
>
>   
>> "I understand from Darrell's email that he was instrumental in getting
>> the alternative school started.  That's great - I'm glad he succeeded
>> there."
>>
>> Please be aware that "instrumental" was not by way of ranting and railing
>> and waving his arms wildly to and froe and not by writing emotionally
>> charged
>> screeds to V2020.  Dr. Weitz purchased the property
>> and building that is the alternative school. He paid to have it made into 
>> a
>> facility to serve the needs of a decidedly underserved portion of the 
>> school
>> district. He graciously gave the greatly improved parcel to the MSD at no
>> charge.
>> His thanks?
>>
>> "This is not a reasonable, calm, concerned, mature man; this is a bully,
>> a professional gadfly, and a bit of an eccentric (she said, understating
>> her point in
>> the interest of civility).."
>>
>> Considering the reception his good deeds have garnered you might
>> wonder why he still bothers to fight for the needs of the non-collage
>> bound student. Despite what you read from MSD employees past and
>> present, and others with a vested interest in seeing the status quo
>> presented as the pinnacle of success, he still sees a need for improved
>> opportunity for a large group of Moscow's kids and puts himself out
>> there to see that they get it. What a bastard.
>>
>> g
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Then he should keep trying, but not by using methods that are ethically
>>> dubious.  I don't find fault with his having a vision and wanting to see
>>> it through.  I don't know that I agree with his vision myself, but it's
>>> certainly possible that I would change my mind if good arguments were
>>> presented to me on the subject.
>>>
>>> I understand from Darrell's email that he was instrumental in getting
>>> the alternative school started.  That's great - I'm glad he succeeded
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Paul ask,
>>>>
>>>> "Has Dr. Weitz tried the more common sense route of involving himself in
>>>>
>>>> the machinations of the school district in whatever way a private
>>>> citizen is able to in order to effect change?  Has he made a proposal?
>>>>
>>>> Has he done the research and come up with a plan for adding these
>>>> classes?  Has he presented it to the right people?  Has he come up with
>>>>
>>>> funding for this plan?  Has he tried to make his voice heard in the
>>>> right places?  In short, has he done anything other than trying to
>>>> strong-arm the district by bringing a lawsuit?"
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he did Paul. For years. But MSD doesn't listen.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Donovan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> */Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I'm sorry, but the proper legal channels for adding more vo-tech
>>>>     programs in the Moscow School District do not include suing said
>>>>     district over the validity of a levy that passed earlier this year. 
>>>> I
>>>>     don't know what those channels are, but I'm pretty sure that the
>>>>     levy is
>>>>     a completely separate issue from them.
>>>>
>>>>     Has Dr. Weitz tried the more common sense route of involving
>>>>     himself in
>>>>     the machinations of the school district in whatever way a private
>>>>     citizen is able to in order to effect change? Has he made a 
>>>> proposal?
>>>>     Has he done the research and come up with a plan for adding these
>>>>     classes? Has he presented it to the right people? Has he come up 
>>>> with
>>>>     funding for this plan? Has he tried to make his voice heard in the
>>>>     right places? In short, has he done anything other than trying to
>>>>     strong-arm the district by bringing a lawsuit?
>>>>
>>>>     Paul
>>>>
>>>>     Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>>>     > Joe,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > You wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     > "If Weitz wants a vo-tech program he'd be better off asking me
>>>>     to put
>>>>     > forth the
>>>>     > case for vo-tech -- for a fraction of what he's paying his
>>>>     lawyers and
>>>>     > with a
>>>>     > greater chance of success since then the MSD won't think that
>>>>     they are
>>>>     > being
>>>>     > blackmailed"
>>>>     >
>>>>     > If you feel you can provide such a service, what is stopping
>>>>     you? You
>>>>     > aren't holding out on the kids just to spite Weitz are you?
>>>>     >
>>>>     > How can it be blackmail if he is using the proper legal
>>>>     channels, and
>>>>     > winning?
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Best,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Donovan
>>>>     >
>>>>     > */Joe Campbell /* wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Donovan,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > What does the law suit have to do with the lack of a vo-tech
>>>>     program?
>>>>     >
>>>>     > If Weitz wants a vo-tech program he'd be better off asking me to
>>>>     > put forth the
>>>>     > case for vo-tech -- for a fraction of what he's paying his lawyers
>>>>     > and with a
>>>>     > greater chance of success since then the MSD won't think that they
>>>>     > are being
>>>>     > blackmailed. Folks don't respond well to blackmail.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > --
>>>>     > Joe Campbell
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