[Vision2020] The Human Toll

Tue Nov 13 15:59:44 PST 2007

"The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of
the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we'd
have to do once we got there. You'd probably have to put some new government
in place. It's not clear what kind of government that would be, how long
you'd have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining
the outcome of the struggle over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes me as
a classic definition of a quagmire." - Dick Cheney, 1991 
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3

And Dick Cheney again in 1994
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a8_1186873756

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"I think Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the president made a big mistake in
justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of
mass destruction." - Gerald R. Ford (July 28, 2004)
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Ford_Iraq_Big_Mistake.mp3

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>From the November 19, 2007 edition of the Army Times - 			

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U.S. service members who died while supporting combat operations in Iraq,
confirmed by the Defense Department from November 2 through November 8:

Navy Petty Officer 2nd Class Kevin R. Bewley, 27, of Hector, Arkansas;
assigned to Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit 11, Oak Harbor,
Washington.

Army Staff Sgt. Carletta S. Davis, 34, of Anchorage, Alaska; assigned to the
10th Brigade Support Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, New York.

Army Spc. Jermaine D. Franklin, 22, of Arlington, Texas; assigned to the 
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne
Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

Army Staff Sgt. John D. Linde, 30, of New York, New York; assigned to the
1st Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, New York.

Army Pfc. Adam J. Muller, 21, of Underhill, Vermont; assigned to the 1st
Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, New York.

Army Spc. Christine M. Ndururi, 21, of Dracut, Massachkusetts; assigned to
the 4th Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, Fort Hood, Texas. 

Army Sgt. Daniel J. Shaw, 23, of West Seneca, New York; assigned to the 1st
Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry
Division, Fort Carson, Colorado.

Army Sgt. Derek T. Stenroos, 24, of North Pole, Alaska; assigned to the 1st
Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, New York.

Army Capt. Benjamin D. Tiffner, 31, of West Virginia; assigned to the 1st
Battalion, 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne), Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

Army Sgt. Lui Tumanuvao, 29, of Fagaalu, American Samoa; assigned to the 1st
Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, Fort Stewart,
Georgia.

Army Sgt. Joseph M. Vanek, 22, of Elmhurst, Illinois; assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd
Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

November 2 - November 8
Killed: 11; wounded in action: 66

March 19, 2003 - November 8, 2007 
Killed: 3,843; wounded in action: 28,450

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The following U.S. service members died while supporting combat operations
in Afghanistan, confirmed by the Defense Department from November 2 through
November 8:

Marine Sgt. Phillip A. Bocks, 28, of Troy, Michigan; assigned to Marine
Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center, Bridgeport, California.

Army 1st Lt. Matthew C. Ferrara, 24, of Torrance, California; assigned to
2nd Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade
Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy.

Army Staff Sgt. Patrick F. Kutschbach, 25, of McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania;
assigned to the 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group, Stuttgart,
Germany.

Army Pfc. Joseph M. Lancour, 21, of Swartz Creek, Michigan; assigned to 2nd
Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat
Team, Vicenza, Italy. 

Army Spc. Sean K. A. Langevin, 23, of Walnut Creek, California; assigned to
2nd Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade
Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy. 

Army Sgt. Jeffery S. Mersman, 23, of Parker, Kansas; assigned to 2nd
Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat
Team, Vicenza, Italy. 

Army Spc. Lester G. Roque, 23, of Torrance, California; assigned to 2nd
Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat
Team, Vicenza, Italy. 

November 2 - November 8
Killed: 7; Wounded in action: 12

Oct. 10, 2001 - November 8, 2007
Killed: 461; Wounded in action: 1,754

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National Guard (In Federal Status) and Reserve Mobilized 
(as of November 7, 2007) 
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2007/d20071107ngr.pdf

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And the beat goes on . . . 

"Bring 'em Home"
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Bring_em_home.mp3

"If you love this land of the free 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Bring them back from overseas 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

It will make the politicians sad, I know 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
They wanna tangle with their foe 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

They wanna test their grand theories 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
With the blood of you and me 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

Now we'll give no more brave young lives 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
For the gleam in someone's eyes 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The men will cheer and the boys will shout 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah and we will all turn out 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The church bells will ring with joy 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
To welcome our darlin' girls and boys 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

We will lift our voice and sound 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah, when Johnny comes marching home 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home." 

Pro patria, 

Tom Hansen 
Moscow, Idaho

"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil
and steady dedication of a lifetime." -- Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.