[Vision2020] Who is

Mon Nov 12 20:10:17 PST 2007

Yep.  Everything seems to fit, Mr. Arnold.

You have a business (Ford Motor Company).

And you have a "Conservative Boycott".

Not only is it a conservative boycott, it is a RENEWED conservative boycott.

I mean, it's like Karl Rove called out the cavalry, huh?

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho 

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:56 PM
To: Donovan Arnold; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who is

ok, how about this one
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/13/AR2006031301
658.html

Ford Faces Renewed Conservative Boycott

By Sholnn Freeman

Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 14, 2006; Page D03 

Ford Motor Co. is facing a boycott from a coalition of 19 conservative
groups that have challenged the automaker's decision to resume advertising
in gay-themed publications after an initial decision not to advertise.

The boycott is being led by the American Family Association of Tupelo, Miss.
The group said Ford reneged on an earlier agreement to stop advertising in
the publications and end all charitable giving to groups that support gay
issues. The group is calling for members to boycott all Ford-built models,
including Ford's European luxury brands -- Volvo, Land Rover and Jaguar.

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"It's a culture war," said Randy Sharp, director of special projects at the
American Family Association. By spending its money with gay groups and in
gay publications, Ford is helping proponents of gay marriage, Sharp said,
which the association opposes.

"If Ford is going to use its profits to be active in the culture war
regarding homosexuality, we are simply going to ask people not to support
them through buying Ford products," Sharp said.

Other groups involved in the boycott include the Center for Reclaiming
America, Citizens for Community Values and Vision America. The American
Family Association owns 200 radio stations under the American Family Radio
name and says it has 2 million online supporters.

The association first issued a boycott threat to Ford early last year. The
group decided to back off after intervention by a big truck dealer in Texas.
The dealer and executives representing the automaker met with Donald E.
Wildmon, the American Family Association's chairman. At the meeting, the
association claimed that Ford agreed to its demands, although Ford disputes
this account.

At the same time, Ford announced that it would cease advertising Jaguar and
Land Rover vehicles in the gay media but said the move was a business
decision. Facing an uproar from gay activist groups -- and a potential
vehicle boycott from them -- Ford quickly reversed course.

A Ford spokeswoman said the automaker's position has not changed since Ford
reversed itself in December. "Ford is proud of its tradition of treating all
with respect," she said.

Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Tom I.,

You listed Christian groups, not conservatives in Moscow. I know strong
Christians that are liberals. 

But all the more reason to support my claims that people in Moscow boycott
businesses when they disagree with political positions of their
owners/workers. 

Best,

Donovan

Tom Ivie <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Conservatives boycott all of the time, I have -although more of a centrist I
am.  They usually do it on an economic basis. Remember the Walmart boycott
of a year or two ago? 

I think it was 2005 when a Catholic advocacy group launched a national
boycott against Wal-Mart
<http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.walmart.com> , claiming the
world's No. 1 retailer had in effect "banned" Christmas, while promoting
other seasonal holidays such as Hanukkah and Kwanzaa. It happens.  Or what
about this http://www.creationists.org/boycotts.html

"To our Christian brothers and sisters: 

Media attention is focused on the war against terrorism.  However, there is
another war that is just as dangerous that requires the attention of all
Christians.  It is an internal war against the spiritual enemies
<http://www.creationists.org/enemy.html>  of our country.  One way we can
deal with some of these attacks against our Lord and us is by speaking
<http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_types.html>  with our wallets, purses
and checkbooks.  Please review the list below and consider boycotting the
listed businesses and organizations.  These organizations continue to engage
in anti-Christian activities because we allow them to by our inaction.  That
needs to change.

If one looks hard enough, most businesses are doing at least one thing that
somehow works against a Christian cause. Therefore, it's not practical to
boycott them all. That doesn't mean we can't target a few of the really bad
ones, though. We can also focus our efforts on local businesses, because we
may have more success in dealing with them.  We have the numbers to make a
difference if we will just act. Let us also remember to pray for the
decision makers in these organizations who are responsible for these errors
in judgment.  

If any of these organizations fully correct the problem(s), we will let you
know by posting the information on this page as soon as we are aware of it.
We will also be working on expanding the list below of companies that avoid
engaging in these kinds of anti-Christian practices."

Boycott

AT <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_att.html> &T

Business that <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_boyscouts.html>  pulled
funding from the Boy Scouts

 <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_carrier.html> Carrier Heating,
Air-Conditioning, Refrigeration Corporation

Columbus <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_columbusdispatch.html>
Dispatch

 <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_cvs.html> CVS Pharmacy

Disney <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_disney.html>  

K-Mart <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_kmart.html>  

Levi-Straus <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_levistraus.html> 

 <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_pbs.html> Public Broadcasting System
(PBS)

United Way <http://www.creationists.org/boycotts_unitedway.html> 

Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote: 

Tom I.,

Mr. Glasebrook was out of line IMHO. However, I haven't ever seen
conservatives boycotting and striking out at a businesses owner for his/her
political beliefs, have you? In either case, I can see why a business person
would tread lightly regarding their public opinion on political issues
because it can kill their income. 

Best,

Donovan

Tom Ivie <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com> wrote:

What do conservative activists do?  anonymous websites? I don't think one
zealot's actions reflect the whole.  If that were the case, I would have to
include many others in with the actions of Mr. Glasebrook.  Who by the way,
I believe has his own convictions for his actions, just as the person who
handed out the list -which I have only seen as I visited a website -of
course searching for a balanced viewpoint
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Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote: 

Mark and Tom I.,

I don't think it is Dale because he doesn't have anything to fear
economically or politically by stating it was him. Dale has said more
controversial things than this and gladly taken credit for it.

My bet is that it is either an elected official or someone who doesn't want
financial repercussion against him/her for stating what they believe, as
many liberal activists in this community like to boycott and picket business
owners that disagree with them on social and political issues. 

Best,

Donovan

Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com> wrote:

Whoever is behind the moscowlevy.com sleaze ads against the school 
levy on the radio and handbill fliers is deliberately trying to hide 
their identity. The website registration is behind a firewall 
purchased from a domain called "Domains by Proxy" which sells web 
anonymity. But given all the references to this site on Dale 
Courtney's website, it's probably not too big a leap of imagination 
to say it's probably Dale.

Look under a rock...

m.

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