[Vision2020] If we care about public education
Sue Hovey
suehovey at moscow.com
Mon Nov 12 10:26:23 PST 2007
Giving away money without strings attached!!! Donovan, you are just blowing in the wind. There have always been strings attached. You and some of your naysayers ought to go to a budget meeting and READ the budget before you make statements such as this. The written statement you ask for--that's the budget. And while you are at it, write your own e-mails. I enjoy getting material from you, even when I disagree with you, and it isn't difficult to tell when it's someone else. Why allow them to hide behind your signature. Your good name is one of the most important indicators of just who you are and you are letting someone else despoil it. I only answer emails from you when I know you have written them. The rest I simply let go.
Your assignment for this week: Go re-read Arthur Miller's The Crucible. I'm sure you had to read it in high school, but that was one important lesson you really didn't get. And it isn't the one about killing witches.
Interesting how the talk has shifted from the earlier comments on the ballot to condemnation of, in your own words, "a broken system." Remember the talk by those who brought and supported the suit. You can find their quotes throughout the newspaper articles, letters to the editor, and advertisements with the claim they only wanted a legal election. And their message: "Just re-run the levy. It will pass just as it always does." In fact I heard Gerry Weitz tell the school board, "The patrons will pass whatever you ask for." Of course now that it is being re-run, he and his supporters are doing their damndest to defeat it.
And thanks for refusing to vote.
----- Original Message -----
From: Donovan Arnold
To: Paul Rumelhart
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] If we care about public education
Paul,
I think we are a long ways from starving the MSD. But, I think that we should have some type of written statement on what the funds will be used for and how they plan to incorporate vocational education in their education program before handing them over $2 million a year. If any other organizations goes to ask for money they need to provide something in writing what they are going to do with money. Just giving that kind of money away with no strings attached "ever" doesn't sound like responsible management of public resources.
Best,
Donovan
Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
I agree whole-heartedly that we should not make this about how much we
either like or dislike Doug Wilson. If his needs happen to align with
mine on something, I'm certainly not changing my vote just to spite him,
even if I did think he was the boogeyman that everyone else seem to
think he is.
I disagree about the "throwing more money at a broken system" comment. I
don't like the idea that we should starve the district financially until
they come around to your way of thinking. I don't think that our schools
are funded anywhere near the level they should be funded, all across the
board. That's the question before the voter right now: are our schools
funded adequately?
This isn't a scenario like the War in Iraq, where withholding funding
might mean something. We really should be supporting education.
Paul
Donovan Arnold wrote:
> "As unbelievable as it sounds, if the levy fails Doug Wilson and his
> followers will view it as a reward from God, and a divine endorsement
> of their point of view."---Rose H.
> Let us not make MSD about how much we dislike Doug Wilson. We should
> make it about what is suppose to be about, making sure youth in the
> MSD get the best chance be successful and practicing a profession they
> enjoy.
> I think if people really care about the public education system they
> would look to find ways to solve the problems it faces other than just
> throwing more money at a broken system that continues to operate in
> the same direction.
> Best,
> Donovan
>
>
> */donald huskey /* wrote:
>
> Many of us have commented on our support for public education. An
> additional encouragement to vote for the levy is found in the
> following exhortation. As unbelievable as it sounds, if the levy
> fails Doug Wilson and his followers will view it as a reward from
> God, and a divine endorsement of their point of view.
> Rose
> From Blog and Mablog - http://dougwils.com/
> *Gladness or Gloating*
> *Topic: *Exhortation
> I said last week that this was the last of our exhortations on
> civic affairs, at least for a while, but I was off by one week.
> There is one other set of comments that needs to be made.
> First, it would be wrong of us to let this election pass by
> without giving thanks to God publicly. Those in our community who
> had specialized in harassing our ministries received a significant
> set-back, for which we thank God.
> The second is to commend you as a congregation for your strong
> presence in this last election. It was extremely gratifying to see
> your involvement. When Nancy and I went to the polls, I was
> astonished at how many of our friends we saw there-quite unlike
> previous elections. That sort of thing makes a difference.
> Third, all the exhortations about service and sacrifice were not
> window-dressing. It is important for us to be willing to give
> ourselves away, and as this new situation creates opportunities to
> do so, let us do so gladly.
> Fourth, don't gloat-be glad. Gladness is not gloating, and vice
> versa. Scripture tells us that when God intervenes on our behalf,
> and our adversary is struggling, a good way to get God to stay His
> hand is for us to starting gloating. Relief and thanks to God are
> most fitting. /Neener-neener/ is never fitting.
> And last, as Shasta discovered in /The Horse and His Boy/, when
> you do something right, your usual reward is to be given another
> task, one probably more difficult. I say this because there is
> /another/ election just two days from now-a public school levy
> election. As before, we are not telling you how to vote, just that
> you have this opportunity before you, and this opportunity, like
> all of them, brings responsibility with it.
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