[Vision2020] Prediction/pin drop

[g. crabtree]

No, what I'm saying is that there is no need for "blood." (what a remarkably 
stupid thing to say) or "an (ironic) boycott of the coop" by anyone. As I've 
said repeatedly, I don't hold the coop management responsible. I applaud 
them for being so quick to recognize the blatant bigotry and quickly 
stepping away from it. The fallout is the self righteous being shown to be 
the sorts of insidious hypocrites that they were so quick to accuse others 
of being, and the mad scrambling to make it seem as though there is no 
story, including your best efforts.  Now that's irony!

g
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "kenna" 
<kenna at moscowfood.coop>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Prediction/pin drop


> Gary --
>
> So what you're saying is that the definition of 'fallout' includes 'no
> consequences for something done by a private individual'?
>
> Pretty weak.
>
> -- ACS
>
> On 11/6/07, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> None of the above (or below as the case maybe)
>>
>> g
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
>> Cc: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "kenna"
>> <kenna at moscowfood.coop>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Prediction/pin drop
>>
>>
>> > Gary --
>> >
>> > What "fallout", Gary? An employee of a store, without their employer's
>> > blessing, created a list of places not to shop--for, in her case, good
>> > reason? What "fallout" do you expect there to be? Are you calling for
>> > blood? An apology from the co-op, which had nothing to do with it? An
>> > (ironic) boycott of the co-op by Kirkers?
>> >
>> > -- ACS
>> >
>> > On 11/6/07, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As I have said repeatedly, I do not think that this incident occurred
>> >> with
>> >> the blessing of Co-op management. I think that Kenna is too bright and
>> >> too
>> >> savvy a business woman to have made such a deliberate attempt to 
>> >> alienate
>> >> a
>> >> group of her customers. I also believe that she simply has too much 
>> >> class
>> >> to
>> >> be involved with such a stupid stunt. What I don't believe is that the
>> >> checker in question was the only person at the Coop that was aware of
>> >> what
>> >> was going on or that the flyer was generated for internal consumption
>> >> only.
>> >> Two highly unlikely assertions that have been put forward to minimize 
>> >> the
>> >> fallout of the flyer coming to light.
>> >>
>> >> g
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Bill London
>> >> To: g. crabtree ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> Cc: kenna
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:12 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Prediction/pin drop
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> G-
>> >> You are perpetuating a lie.
>> >> The blog states that the 'Co-op" handed out the flyers.
>> >> That is not true.
>> >> The Co-op management or board had NO knowledge of the flyer.  The only
>> >> relationship to the Co-op was that one person, who worked at the 
>> >> Co-op,
>> >> handed out a few of these flyers while at the Co-op.   That same 
>> >> person
>> >> handed out the flyers at other places across town.
>> >> This person was reprimanded, as a Co-op employee, for using the Co-op
>> >> facilities to hand out the flyers.
>> >> BL
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: g. crabtree
>> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:16 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Prediction/pin drop
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> A point of clarification, if I may. No unsupported rumors are being
>> >> spread
>> >> here. Please contact Kenna Eaton at the Co-op (882-8537) for 
>> >> confirmation
>> >> of
>> >> the details concerning this sordid event or see:
>> >>
>> >> http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2007/11/05/55872.aspx
>> >>
>> >>  The point of bringing this matter to light is not to portray the 
>> >> Co-op
>> >> or
>> >> its management in a bad light but to reveal a certain mind set that is
>> >> all
>> >> too common amongst a certain element that centers itself there. A 
>> >> group
>> >> that
>> >> is quick to shriek when the word bigot is used when referring to
>> >> themselves
>> >> all the while quietly bearing the contention out in secret.
>> >>
>> >> g
>> >>
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