[Vision2020] The Human toll

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Tue Nov 6 15:20:44 PST 2007


"The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of
the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we'd
have to do once we got there. You'd probably have to put some new government
in place. It's not clear what kind of government that would be, how long
you'd have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining
the outcome of the struggle over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes me as
a classic definition of a quagmire." - Dick Cheney, 1991 
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3
 
And Dick Cheney again in 1994
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a8_1186873756

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"I think Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the president made a big mistake in
justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of
mass destruction." - Gerald R. Ford (July 28, 2004)
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Ford_Iraq_Big_Mistake.mp3

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>From the November 5, 2007 edition of the Army Times - 			

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U.S. service members who died while supporting combat operations in Iraq,
confirmed by the Defense Department from October 26 through November 1:

Army 2nd Lt. Tracy Lynn Alger, 30, of New Auburn, Wisconsin; assigned to 3rd
Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat team, 101st Airborne
Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

Army Pvt. Cody M. Carver, 19, of Haskell, Oklahoma; assigned to the 1st
Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry
Division, Fort Benning, Georgia.

Army Pfc. Dwane A. Covert Jr., 20, of Tonawanda, New York; assigned to the
104th Transportation Company, 13th Corps Support Sustainment Battalion, 3rd
Infantry Division, Fort Benning, Georgia.

Air ForceMaster Sgt. Thomas A. Crowell, 36, of Neosho, Missouri; assigned to
Detachment 301, Scott Air Force Base, Illinois.

Army Sgt. Louis A. Griese, 30, of Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin; assigned to 2nd
Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne
Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

Army Pfc. Rush M. Jenkins, 22, of Clarksville, Tennessee; assigned to the
1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry
Division, Fort Benning, Georgia. 

Army Sgt. Daniel L. McCall, 24, of Pace, Florida; assigned to the 1st
Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry
Division, Fort Benning, Georgia. 

Army Cpt. Timothy I. McGovern, 28, of   Indiana; assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry
Division, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Air Force Nathan J. Schuldheiss, 27, of Newport, Rhode Island; assigned to
Detachment 204, Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska.

Army Spc. Brandon W. Smitherman, 21, of Conroe, Texas; assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry
Division, Fort Bliss, Texas. 

Air Force Staff Sgt. David A. Wieger, 28, of North Huntingdon, Pennsylvania;
assigned to Detachment 303, Travis Air Force Base, California.


October 26 - November 1
Killed: 11; wounded in action: 57

March 19, 2003 - November 1, 2007 
Killed: 3,832; wounded in action: 28,384

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The following U.S. service members died while supporting combat operations
in Afghanistan, confirmed by the Defense Department from October 26 through
November 1:

Army Staff Sgt. James D. Bullard, 28, of Marion, South Carolina; assigned to
the South Carolina National Guard's 1st Battalion, 263rd Armor Battalion, in
Marion, South Carolinia.

Army Maj. Jeffrey R. Calero, 34, of Queens Village, New York; assigned to
the 1st Battalion, 20th Special Forces Group (Airborne), Massachusetts
National Guard, Springfield, Massachusetts. 

Army Sgt.1st Class Johnny C. Walls, 41, of Bremerton, Washington; assigned
to the 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kansas.

October 26 - November 1
Killed: 3; Wounded in action: 34

Oct. 10, 2001 - November 1, 2007
Killed: 454; Wounded in action: 1,742

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National Guard (In Federal Status) and Reserve Mobilized 
(as of October 31, 2007) 
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2007/d20071031ngr.pdf

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And the beat goes on . . . 

"Bring 'em Home"
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Bring_em_home.mp3

"If you love this land of the free 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Bring them back from overseas 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

It will make the politicians sad, I know 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
They wanna tangle with their foe 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

They wanna test their grand theories 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
With the blood of you and me 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

Now we'll give no more brave young lives 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
For the gleam in someone's eyes 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The men will cheer and the boys will shout 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah and we will all turn out 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

The church bells will ring with joy 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
To welcome our darlin' girls and boys 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 

We will lift our voice and sound 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home 
Yeah, when Johnny comes marching home 
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home." 

Pro patria, 

Tom Hansen 
Moscow, Idaho

"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil
and steady dedication of a lifetime." -- Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.
 








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