[Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 2 10:50:37 PDT 2007


GAWD!!  Isn't it amazing how you open each and every reply with something along the line of "I think you're not reading what I wrote".  Get a clue, dude.  Either you are that hard to read (VERY possible) or you are doing the kirker-shuffle - "Distract and blame them for not getting it."

J  :]


From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: suehovey at moscow.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; the_ivies3 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com; areaman at moscow.com; wdkrauss at clearwire.net; wmsteed at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:05:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions










Ms. Hovey
 
I think that you are reading things into my post 
that weren't there and overlooking some of what was. My point is that I 
think that Dan would go the extra mile to try and create solutions that would 
satisfy people from your end of the spectrum as well as mine. Fortunately for 
me, I have never had need for his professional assistance but I'm sure you are 
right, in spite of my opinions he would almost certainly help me anyway. Thank 
God.
 
g

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Sue Hovey 
  
  To: g. crabtree ; Donovan Arnold ; Tom Ivie ; 
  Moscow 
  Vision 2020 ; Dan Carscallen ; wdkrauss at clearwire.net ; wmsteed at aol.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and 
  More Political Contributions
  

  Mr. Crabtree,
   
  Perhaps you could quote the passage from my 
  posting which indicates I am not giving him my consideration.  And while 
  you are doing that you might quote the passage in which I ask Dan to condemn 
  Mr. Glasebrook.  I did not ask that.  I said I was disappointed he 
  did not condemn the sign.  The pronoun "it" refers to inantimate 
  objects.  I never refer to people as "it", not even Dr. Weitz.  
  
   
  I happen to like Dan a lot.  And I am 
  grateful to him for his contributions to the community.  I have a feeling 
  he never considers a person's goodness, or political affiliation before he 
  decides to try to save them.  The fact that he tried diligently to keep 
  you among the living proves my point, doesn't it? 
   
  Sue 
  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    g. 
    crabtree 
    To: Sue Hovey ; Donovan Arnold ; Tom Ivie ; 
    Moscow 
    Vision 2020 ; Dan Carscallen ; wdkrauss at clearwire.net ; wmsteed at aol.com 
    
    Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:45 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and 
    More Political Contributions
    

    Ms. Hovey,
     
    Regarding Dan Carscallen's comment regarding 
    Mr. Glasebrooks sign. Wouldn't an outright condemnation be little 
    different than taking the man to task for exercising his right to 
    express his opinion in public? Whether you agree or not there is no question 
    but what Mr. Glasebrook truly believes that the candidates in question are 
    bigoted toward his church. I would think that reasonable people could 
    disagree without having to demand  they condemn him. I don't 
    remember any call for condemnation for letter writer's who went to the 
    fanatical extreme of expressing the opinion that Dr. Weitz  
    hates kids. But I suppose that was a different, more intimate ox 
    being gored in that instance.
     
    One thing I do know is that in a medical 
    emergency I would be incredibly pleased to see Dan's face as he dropped 
    everything to do his absolute level best to keep me among the living 
    as, I suspect, would you. If we're willing to trust him that far how much 
    more of a stretch is it to trust him with a council seat? I believe 
    that he'll look for the compromise that would make both of us 
    equally mad as well as evenly pleased and devote the same competence to 
    deciding matters of city business that he does to his other vital 
    activities. Please give him your consideration.
     
    g
    
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: 
      Sue 
      Hovey 
      To: Donovan Arnold ; Tom Ivie 
      ; Moscow Vision 2020 ; Dan 
      Carscallen ; wdkrauss at clearwire.net ; wmsteed at aol.com 
      
      Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 
      3:51 PM
      Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog 
      and More Political Contributions
      

      Exactly.  But the source of that 
      money is also a strong indicator of the values held by their 
      supporters.    And that's why taking money from John Ficca is a 
      clear indication of the regard one has for the rights of employees.  
      They might not have known about his past when they accepted it, but 
      they know now and whether they keep it or return it is key to their 
      own values.  If they decide to return it, then they need to make a 
      public statement to that effect.  Otherwise, how would we know in 
      time to vote for them?
       
      An important issue, to me, is the request by 
      the police to form a union.  They were denied that opportunity last 
      year.  I want to elect candidates who will not deny that request 
      again.  Those who would overlook John Ficca's behavior might well be 
      disinclined to allow the police effort, as well. 
       
      As I have been involved in the debates among 
      the candidates, I really have come to feel that electing all the council 
      members from either MCA or GMA might not serve us as well as electing 
      candidates from both groups.  At this time, I am convinced to 
      vote for Aaron Ament.  I am still trying to determine where my other 
      votes will go.  I had intended to make support for the school levy 
      re-run a determining variable, but I am convinced all the candidates 
      support that effort.  Evan Holmes, Dan Carscallen, and Aaron Ament 
      have not only voiced their support, they have written articulately of that 
      support.  Wayne Krauss also has a long history of 
      supporting Moscow Public Schools.  
       
      The word of the candidates in 
      response to the Christ Church representative, Dave Glasebrook, and the 
      malicious sign he carried, are also significant.  I was particularly 
      bothered by the statement from Dan Carscallen, "I don't condone it, but I 
      guess I don't condemn it, either."  And pray, why not?  It would 
      seem to me that any posturing from a person filled with all 
      that invective would compel one to condemn it.  And coming 
      on the heels of Shelly Bennett's letter which carried the same message, I 
      think one can expect antics such as these to continue.  
       
      One thing, though, through all of this the 
      candidates have comported themselves with the level of civility one has a 
      right to expect of people running for public office.  They have all 
      done well by us.  I am sure that by election day, I will cast my vote 
      with confidence in those who receive it. 
       
      I would have sent this letter to the Daily 
      News and Lewiston Tribune, but my allocation of letters to the editor was 
      already expended through my effort to support the levy re-run. 
      
       
      Sue Hovey
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: 
        Donovan Arnold 
        To: Tom Ivie ; Moscow 
        Vision 2020 
        Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 
        9:50 PM
        Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog 
        and More Political Contributions
        

        Tom I.,
         
        I don't think money wins an election. But it is the strongest 
        indicator of what kind of support a candidate has in the 
        community.
         
        Best,
         
        Donovan 

Tom Ivie <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com> 
        wrote:
        Nothing 
          is ever certain in horse races or politics.  All the money in the 
          world doesn't win an election.  It does help though.  Send 
          your checks to...

Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> 
          wrote: 
          
            I cannot wait to see who wins the third seat for the four year 
            term. I really think it looks like Tom Lamar, Wayne Krauss, and 
            Dan Carscallen are going to be fighting for the last two seats. I 
            think Aaron Ament with a big load a cash, incumbency, and being 
            liberal in a liberal town is definitely going to place in the top 
            three. I am also certain that Walter Steed will win.
             
            Best,
             
            Donovan

Tom Ivie 
            <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com> wrote:
            One 
              person contributed $4,000 to a city election? What are we, Boise 
              or Seattle?  or is that what they want us to be?  What 
              does one person have to gain by providing so much money in a 
              little race? like ours?  Nothing against the candidates 
              though, good for them to have a big spending benefactor.  
                

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> 
              wrote: 
              >From 
                Dale Courtney's blog 
                at:

http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2007/10/31/55739.aspx

------------------------------------------

"Hey, 
                Big Spender 

I have a copy of all of the City Council 
                Candidates' Campaign Financial
Disclosure Reports. 
                

I'll post them shortly. 

Of interest is how much 
                money the candidates have received. 

Aaron Ament: $9,475 
                
Tom Lamar: $8,817 
Walter Steed: $6,936 
Wayne Krauss: 
                $6,135 
Dan Carscallen: $4,545 
Linda Pall: $3,910 
                
Evan Holmes: $1,992
Bill London accuses the GMA 
                candidates of being the "big spending" group. 

Seems like 
                most of the money is being funneled to the liberal candidates. 
                

If money is any indication, the libs have their bets set 
                on Ament. 

Heaven help 
                us."

------------------------------------------

Although 
                it is important to learn how much money has been contributed 
                to
each candidate, it is vitally more important to learn from 
                where that money
was contributed.

Your attention is 
                invited to the Financial Disclosure reports located 
                at:

http://www.MoscowElection2007.com

A review of 
                the Financial Disclosure Reports submitted by Dan 
                Carscallen,
Walter Steed, Wayne Krauss, and the Greater 
                Moscow Alliance Political Action
Committee reflects 
                contributions in the amount of $1,000 to each of 
                the
aforementioned by Palouse Rental and 
                Construction.

Who is Palouse Rental and Construction you 
                ask?

As mentioned earlier by Mark Solomon in an earlier 
                posting 
                at:

http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2007-October/049113.html

"As 
                I'm always interested in who is contributing big $$ in 
                elections, I
looked it up and saw Palouse Rentals and 
                Construction had donated $1000 to
GMA. Maybe I'm just out of 
                the loop, but I did not know that name. A quick
search on the 
                Sec'y of State website gives up John Ficca as the president 
                of
the corporation, which, by the way, has been 
                administratively dissolved by
the Sec'y of State for failure 
                to file annual reports since 2004."

It appears that this 
                defunct company is/was headed by John Ficca, who back
in 2000 
                . . 
                .

http://www.lni.wa.gov/news/2000/pr000214a.asp

"TUMWATER 
                - An Idaho employer must pay more than $95,000 in unpaid wages 
                to
12 current and former employees in the Spokane area 
                according to a
settlement agreement announced today by the 
                Department of Labor and
Industries.

John Ficca, of 
                Moscow, Idaho, owner of Art's Electric, Inc., also has 
                been
permanently prohibited from bidding on or performing 
                work on future public
works projects in Washington. Ficca 
                also does business as Palouse Country
Electric and U Cities 
                Contracting."

It appears that perhaps the state of Idaho 
                may be interested in the business
posture of "Palouse Rental 
                and Construction" as it makes political
contributions to a 
                select few (Steed, Krauss, and Carscallen) of Moscow's
city 
                council candidates.

One can only wonder how Moscow will 
                be divvied up . . . er . . . uh . . . I
mean rezoned come 
                January if Palouse Rental and Construction should gain
three 
                seats on our city council.

Things that make you go . . 
                .

Hmmm. 

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom 
                Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 
                with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not 
                very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale 
                Courtney (March 28, 
                2007)



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