[Vision2020] The Passing of an Ugly Giant of the Religious Right

Mon May 28 08:11:56 PDT 2007

I think it's unfortunate that it's become so easy to automatically assign people to a category -- in this case, "liberals" -- when you don't like what they've done.  I agree that it's sad that Falwell died believing some of the things he did and not having repented for the hurt he caused, but he was a relentlessly public figure who courted controversy.  I don't think it's "dancing on his grave" to reflect on the damage he did to the Gospel and to those around him.keelyDate: Sun, 27 May 2007 21:05:45 -0700From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.comTo: nickgier at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] The Passing of an Ugly Giant of the Religious RightLord knows that I have every reason not to like Jerry Falwell and I certainly could not force myself to shed a tear for his passing. However, I think that Nick Gier's posting is uncalled for, distasteful, mean spirited and can be taken for nothing else than dancing on the grave of person that he disagrees with.      I think it is unfortunate that liberals engage in this childish behavior, laughing at the corpses of those they disagree with. To me it is a tragedy that Mr. Falwell died believing as he did. It would have been more meaningful for him to live to be able to more open-minded.      Best,     Donovannickgier at adelphia.net wrote:  Greetings:This is my radio commentary on KRFP for next week, which has also been published in
 "Sandpoint Reader," "New West Magazine (online)," and "The Los Cabos Daily News." Two comments from "New West" are priceless and I have appended them below.Warning: Doug Wilson is mentioned in this post. Here is one sentence of note: "Wilson is different from Falwell in at least one respect: he has yet to apologize for any of his serial serrations."Nick Gier, Proud IntoleristaIntolerance is not a vice if one is intolerant of bigotry, dishonesty, deception, ugly behavior, and bad manners.New West Comments:By Irwin Horowitz, 5-25-07I was wondering if I could apply for the position of the Anti-Christ? I am alive today, I'm male, and I'm of Jewish descent. Are there any other qualifications?By Sisyphus, 5-25-07Best eulogy I've seen yet. Thanks professor. So from this I gather he seems the likely marketing progenitor for Ann Coulter.Irwin, does your mom walk on all fours? Got any odd 666 markings in the
 epidermal layer? No, I'm sure Mr. Falwell meant all of you that fit that category. Oh my I just realized you guys have control of Judea. That can't be good. Let me know if you see four horseman cause I got some sacraments to get under my belt. Go to www.newwest.net, click politics, and read my response to the Falwell apologist.THE PASSING OF AN UGLY GIANT OF THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT Merciful Father, hear our prayer: Please let the death of your wayward servant the Rev. Jerry Falwell be a sign that an era has ended, and a new one has begun.--Mary C. Schulken, Charlotte Observer (5/17/07)The closest I ever came to Jerry Falwell was a 1983 debate I had with Cal Thomas, then the Vice-President of Moral Majority (1980-85) and now a nationally syndicated columnist. For the first time in my debating career I actually experienced stage fright, but after 15 minutes I recovered my confidence and made some good points. At the end of the
 evening, Thomas came over to me, put his arm around me, and said: "Nick, I would love to take a class from you sometime." Falwell himself, however, was rarely so gracious. Mel White, a speech writer who left Falwell's employ after coming out as gay, said that Falwell was always nice in person, but when he appeared in public he grew horns and a tail.In 1980 Falwell agreed with Bailey Smith, President of the Southern Baptist Convention, that God does not answer the prayers of Jews. Falwell always condemned secular humanists, but for someone to restrict the actions of an omnipotent and free deity is the height of humanistic hubris. In a 1958 sermon Falwell proclaimed that the segregation of the races was divinely ordained: "When God has drawn a line of distinction, we should not attempt to cross that line." Here is yet another example of the arrogance, usually attributed to humanists, of fundamentalist ministers claiming to have the truth about texts
 written and transmitted by fallible human beings who were not witness to the events about which they were writing.After the Holocaust, there is nothing uglier and more reprehensible than anti-Semitism, but the Jewish prayer example was only one of many. Falwell was always in legal and financial hot water, and he objected to one ruling against him on the grounds that the judge was Jewish. In January, 1999, Falwell proclaimed that the Anti-Christ was now alive among us and that he was a Jewish male. His most famous offense was the linking of the 9/11attack to the ACLU, People for the American Way, pagans, abortionists, gays, and lesbians. Addressing them directly, he said: "You made this happen." Earlier Falwell had said that the sins of these same groups had led God to use the AIDS epidemic as a divine judgment for a world that had ignored the laws of God.Speaking about his brash statements to NPR on June 30, 2006, he said that "none of them
 [happened] by chance." This makes all of his apologies for the statements above rather suspect. They all appear to have been shrewd PR calculations. For example, he apologized for his 9/11 statements, but then essentially repeated them, not once but twice, on NPR (6/30/06) and on CNN (5/8/07). He once said: "Thank God for these gay demonstrators. If I didn't have them, I'd have to invent them. They give me all the publicity I need." When Larry King was asked why he had Falwell on his show so many times, his response was: "He gets people mad." Journalists such King are partially responsible for the fissures that Falwell and other preachers like him have created in American culture.Sadly, there are many evangelists waiting in the wings to take Falwell's place. Douglas Wilson, pastor of Moscow's second largest church is one of them. One of Wilson's books is entitled The Serrated Edge, in which he defends the use of cutting humor to advance the Gospel.
 Wilson and Falwell are masters at applying their wicked blades to the body politic. Wilson, however, is different from Falwell in at least one respect: he has yet to apologize for any of his serial serrations. He warns his flock never to be embarrassed by what the Bible literally says, even if it means ancient laws that allows slavery or mandates capital punishment for homosexuality, adultery, child disobedience, and apostasy.In 1987, when Falwell dissolved the Moral Majority, he said: "I shudder to think where the country would be right now if the Religious Right had not evolved." Yes, Jerry, we are all shuddering, but for the opposite reason. David Kuo, an evangelical who once headed Bush's faith-based initiative, said that "Jerry Falwell almost single handedly blurred the line between Jesus and conservative politics to the detriment of both." Falwell's former Vice-President Cal Thomas sums it up best: "Little was accomplished in the political
 arena and much was lost in the spiritual realm." Mary Schulken finishes her prayer: "We commend to you, Lord, the soul of your wayward servant. He had a profound influence on politics and culture in the past two decades. But he led us by dividing us, and invoked your name to do it."=======================================================List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com======================================================= 
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