[Vision2020] Tragedy Highlights Reasons for Concern about Sitler

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sun May 27 12:34:59 PDT 2007 

And once again, you try to distract....

Just answer the questions, fool.  Oh, wait - you can't, now can you?  That 
would require you to be TRUTHFUL and that is something you are not in the 
habit of being.

Well, I tried.



J  :]





>From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tragedy Highlights Reasons for Concern about 
>Sitler
>Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 18:30:36 -0700
>
>Jackie,
>
>I find it disturbing that your thought processes lead you to choose not to
>believe any answer I may give for "A"  and yet you continue on asking me to
>give you answers for three more questions in "C".  I would urge you think
>carefully about what it is you want to say prior to sitting down before 
>your
>keyboard.  It may help many of us to give some level of credence to your
>contributions.
>
>Schwaller
>
>On 5/25/07, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Judging by the number of off-list emails I have received, most people
>> >are grateful for the information I have provided regarding Mr Sitler
>> >and his probationary status."
>>
>>A. How many would that include, Dougie - 2?  mayhap, 3?
>>
>>B.  Since we are not privvy to your e-mails, are we just to assume you are
>>telling the truth about those e-mail contents and/or opinions?  Don't
>>believe I'll do that, thank you very much.
>>
>>C.  Just what kind of "information" have you provided and since when can
>>that be said to be accurate and/or even close to the truth?  And just how
>>is
>>it you came by that "information"?
>>
>>
>>J  :]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
>> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tragedy Highlights Reasons for Concern about
>> >Sitler
>> >Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:05:03 -0700
>> >
>> >Visionaries,
>> >
>> >Judging by the number of off-list emails I have received, most people
>> >are grateful for the information I have provided regarding Mr Sitler
>> >and his probationary status.  I have not gone through my posts line by
>> >line but I shall, and attempt to identify what I have written that
>> >leads you to think I am "trying to convince (you that you) really have
>> >nothing to worry about with respect to . .  .Steven Sitler."
>> >
>> >My first post addressed a "general" question by Mr Hansen on sex
>> >offender registration.  I assumed he was referring to Mr Sitler's
>> >pending release, but he did not mention any names.
>> >
>> >Subsequent posts were designed to answer questions on what I
>> >understand to be the specifics of Mr Sitler's probation, and how
>> >things would be monitored.  If the tenor of those posts made it sound
>> >as if you have nothing to worry about, that was most certainly NOT my
>> >intention.  At the risk of sounding repetitive, "Here are the
>> >guidelines P & P will most likely follow."  How well those guidelines
>> >will be followed, how effectively Mr Sitler will be monitored, how
>> >morally or ethically correct those guidelines are, I cannot say.  All
>> >I can do is try to give information.
>> >
>> >As I stated in one post "I suppose one could always call P & P and
>> >voice one's concerns to the resident corrections people in Moscow.  I
>> >suspect they like to keep on top of what the locals think and would
>> >like to know."  The last time I checked there was one (1) inquiry.
>> >  "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people
>> >to do nothing."  Well I guess one is better than none.
>> >
>> >"whose real name most of us have figured out"
>> >
>> >At the risk of sound "apologetic" once again, I'm sorry but Glenn
>> >Schwaller lives, breathes,and exists.  No, I am NOT who you think I am
>> >"hid(ing) behind a pseudonym for the umpteenth time . . ."
>> >
>> >"Schwaller" holds out to us as empty reassurance that our children are
>> >safe."
>> >
>> >I have done no such thing.  Are the two P & P officers in Latah county
>> >overworked? I think that goes without saying.  Is that a good thing?
>> >Of course not.  Do I think things could and should be better? Of
>> >course.  Would I trust Mr Sitler with my kids?  With any kids?  Of
>> >course not.  Would I trust him under the direct supervision of an
>> >approved chaperone?  Only if I had to, but I would do whatever is
>> >necessary to keep my kids as far away from Mr Sitler as possible -
>> >chaperoned or not.  Would I point out to my kids who Mr Sitler is and
>> >why they need to avoid him?  Of course.
>> >
>> >I would hope that Mr Sitler's situation, and the recent tragedy
>> >inflicted by Mr Hamilton would serve as a wake-up all for all to
>> >rethink and re-evaluate how our justice and corrections system is
>> >funded and functions.
>> >
>> >I'm sorry you think I am playing games with you and your children and
>> >their safety.  I assure you I do no such thing.
>> >
>> >Schwaller
>> >
>> >On 5/21/07, Saundra Lund <sslund at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> > > Visionaires:
>> > >
>> > > Apologist "Glenn Schwaller" -- whose real name most of us have 
>>figured
>> >out
>> > > despite his cowardice of unsuccessfully trying to hide behind a
>> >pseudonym
>> > > for the umpteenth time -- has spent more than a fair amount of
>>cyber-ink
>> > > trying to convince us we really have nothing to worry about with
>>respect
>> >to
>> > > the Kirk's serial (although our anemic system sought justice for only
>> >one of
>> > > his victims) pedophile Steven Sitler.
>> > >
>> > > After all, "Schwaller" shrilly insists, Sitler has had limits placed
>>on
>> >him
>> > > as a result of his conviction and sentencing, plus he's subject to
>> >oversight
>> > > by P&P.
>> > >
>> > > While there are still many unknowns, we now know Jason Hamilton had
>> >limits
>> > > placed on him as a result of his conviction.  Hamilton, too, was 
>>under
>> >the
>> > > oversight of P&P, the same P&P "Schwaller" holds out to us as empty
>> > > reassurance that our children are safe.
>> > >
>> > > One of the terms of Hamilton's 6 June 2006 conviction and resulting
>> > > probation was that he wasn't to possess any firearms.
>> > >
>> > > The Latah County Prosecutor's Office brought Hamilton up on
>>unspecified
>> > > probation violation charge(s) 4 April 2007.
>> > >
>> > > Hamilton appeared in court just last Tuesday, 15 May 2007, where he
>> > > apparently was allowed to remain free in spite of probation
>> >violation(s).
>> > >
>> > > In addition to the two semi-automatic rifles Hamilton used in his
>> >attacks on
>> > > his wife and our community, other guns have now been found in his 
>>home
>> >as
>> > > well.
>> > >
>> > > This in spite of the terms placed on him as a result of his
>>conviction.
>> > > This in spite of his oversight by P&P.
>> > >
>> > > Yeah, our children are safe from Steven Sitler:  those conditions and
>> > > oversight by P&P will keep our kids safe.  Yeahhhh, riigghhtt.
>> > >
>> > > I'm sure questions will be asked in the coming days and weeks about
>>how
>> >many
>> > > P&P officers we have in Latah County, how heavy their case loads are,
>> >and
>> > > how Hamilton managed to have several guns in spite of the terms of 
>>his
>> > > probation and his monitoring by P&P.
>> > >
>> > > For now, I just want to point out *exactly* how dangerous a game
>> >"Schwaller"
>> > > has been trying to play -- unsuccessfully, I hope -- with those of us
>> >who
>> > > care about *all* the children in our community.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Saundra Lund
>> > > Moscow, ID
>> > >
>> > > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people 
>>to
>> >do
>> > > nothing.
>> > > - Edmund Burke
>> > >
>> > > ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006 through
>>life
>> >plus
>> > > 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
>> >outside
>> > > the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
>> > > author.*****
>> > >
>> > >
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