[Vision2020] Immigration Breakthrough Could Pave Way for

Sat May 19 16:33:35 PDT 2007

Yes.

And while we're at it, who is flying those black helicopters around?

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pkraut at moscow.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Immigration Breakthrough Could Pave Way for

> Keely this bill is not going to work in any form everybody knows it and
> you are living in a dream world if you think it will. Pay attention to
> what it really is saying and maybe you too can wonder like some of the
> rest of us...who is getting the payoff here?
> PK
>
>
>
>> Alright, here is what we do. We let all the remaining Mexicans not in
> the US in, we then
> take the vacant Mexico, build retirement condos along the Mexican coast,
> send all the baby
> boomers down to the condos, then collect social security taxes on the new
> Mexican America
> workers to pay for their social security. We would solve the immigration,
> overpopulation,
> and social security problems all at once. Not to mention the baby-boomers
> would retire in
> style on the beach.
>>
>>   Best,
>>
>>   Donovan
>>
>> keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>>       P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-
> FAMILY:Tahoma  }
>  Please, Lord, let it happen soon.
>>
>> keely
>>
>> > From: thansen at moscow.com
>> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:05:32 -0700
>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Immigration Breakthrough Could Pave Way for
> Citizenship
>> >
>> > >From CNN.com -
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Immigration breakthrough could pave way for citizenship
>> >
>> > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants
> living
>> > in the United States could be put on the path to citizenship under a
> new
>> > immigration bill agreed upon Thursday by a bipartisan group of
> senators.
>> >
>> > "The agreement we just reached is the best possible chance we will
> have to
>> > secure our borders, bring millions of people out of the shadows and
> into the
>> > sunshine of America," Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts
> said.
>> >
>> > President Bush expressed gratitude to the senators for their work.
> (Watch
>> > the balancing act politicians face from population changes and a
> backlash )
>> >
>> > "I really am anxious to sign a comprehensive immigration bill as soon
> as I
>> > possibly can," he told reporters outside the White House. "Today, we
> took a
>> > good step toward this direction."
>> >
>> > The bill is going to the Senate next week and if it passes, will then
>> > proceed to the House.
>> >
>> > House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has told the White House that she's not
> going to
>> > bring the issue to the floor unless the president can deliver at least
> 70
>> > votes.
>> >
>> > But Republican Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said the bill is not a done
> deal.
>> >
>> > He said he has "concerns with the principles outlined in today's
>> > announcement."
>> >
>> > "I believe today's announcement is somewhat premature because specific
>> > legislative text has yet to be drafted on a number of key details,"
> Cornyn
>> > said in a statement. "Until I have the opportunity to review this
> text, I
>> > will withhold from making more detailed comments."
>> >
>> > The 380-page bill, which comes after nearly three months of
> negotiations,
>> > would give immediate work authorization to undocumented workers who
> arrived
>> > in the United States before January 1, 2007.
>> >
>> > Heads of household would have to return to their home country within
> eight
>> > years, and they would be guaranteed the right to return.
>> >
>> > Applicants would also have to pay a $5,000 penalty.
>> >
>> > Additionally, the number of Border Patrol agents would be doubled,
> border
>> > fencing would be strengthened and employers who hire undocumented
> workers
>> > would face fines.
>> >
>> > The process of enforcing those provisions would take about 18 months,
>> > according to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael
> Chertoff.
>> >
>> > After the provisions are in place, a guest-worker program would be
>> > initiated, under which 400,000 temporary workers per year would be
> granted a
>> > "Y" visa.
>> >
>> > The two-year visas would require they return home for a year, then
> allow
>> > them to re-enter for an additional two-years. The process could be
> repeated
>> > twice more.
>> >
>> > Each year, they would be able to bring their families on 30-day visitor
>> > visas, and each year, they would earn points toward a merit-based green
>> > card.
>> >
>> > Specter: This is not amnesty
>> >
>> > "It is not amnesty," said Republican Sen. Arlen Specter of
> Pennsylvania.
>> > "This will restore the rule of law."
>> >
>> > Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona called the bill "a first step,
> but an
>> > important first step, to moving forward with comprehensive overall
>> > immigration reform."
>> >
>> > "I'm sure that there are certain provisions that each of us would not
> agree
>> > with, but this is what the legislative process is all about," said
>> > Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia. (Watch senators explain how
> the
>> > bill works )
>> >
>> > Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, acknowledged that not
>> > everyone will be pleased with the bill's treatment of the immigration
> issue.
>> >
>> > "To the American people, I would say, 'Don't let the perfect be the
> enemy of
>> > the good,' " she said.
>> >
>> > She said the bill would ensure that border security is strong and that
>> > farmers -- who depend largely on an undocumented work force -- will be
> able
>> > to find workers.
>> >
>> > "From my perspective, it's not perfect, but it represents the best
>> > opportunity that we have, in a bipartisan way, to do something about
> this
>> > problem," said Republican Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona.
>> >
>> > Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said the bill
> started out
>> > being about how to deal with illegal immigration "and wound up being
> about
>> > what it means to be an American ... I think we've got a deal that
> reflects
>> > who we are as Americans."
>> >
>> > He added, "From the Ph.D. to the landscaper, there's a chance for you
> to
>> > participate in the American dream on our terms in a way that makes this
>> > country better."
>> >
>> > Graham predicted the bill would find "overwhelming" support among
> lawmakers.
>> >
>> > Debate on the bill is slated to get under way in the Senate on Monday,
> and
>> > Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said she wants passage of a bill
> before
>> > August.
>> >
>> > Bush: Immigration a tough issue for a lot of Americans
>> >
>> > Bush described immigration as "a tough issue for a lot of Americans,"
> but
>> > added, "The agreement reached today is one that will help enforce our
>> > borders but, equally importantly, it will treat people with respect.
>> >
>> > "This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be
> treated
>> > without amnesty but without animosity." (Watch Bush praise
> bipartisanship of
>> > senators)
>> >
>> > That view was challenged by Republican Rep. Brian Bilbray of
> California,
>> > chairman of the Immigration Reform Caucus.
>> >
>> > "The 'compromise' announced today by Sen. Kennedy will reward 12
> million
>> > illegal immigrants with a path to citizenship -- what part of illegal
> does
>> > the Senate not understand?" he said in a written statement.
>> >
>> > "Any plan that rewards illegal behavior is amnesty."
>> >
>> > The American Immigration Lawyers Association decried the proposal as
>> > "large-scale social experimentation," singling out the "guest worker"
>> > program as one that would preclude a path to permanent residence for
> new
>> > temporary workers.
>> >
>> > "A practical solution for the undocumented population is an enormously
>> > important step in the right direction," the association said in a
> written
>> > statement. "But the cost of fixing our current problems cannot be the
>> > creation of bigger problems in the future."
>> >
>> > But Chertoff told CNN that the bill would help him better focus his
>> > resources.
>> >
>> > "Right now, I've got my Border Patrol agents and my immigration agents
>> > chasing maids and landscapers. I want them to focus on drug dealers and
>> > terrorists. It seems to me, if I can get the maids and landscapers
> into a
>> > regulated system and focus my law enforcement on the terrorists and
> the drug
>> > dealers, that's how I get a safe border."
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Seeya rouind town, Moscow.
>> >
>> > Tom Hansen
>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >
>> > "Uh, how about a 1-strike law. Death doesn't seem too extreme for a
> Level-3
>> > sex offender."
>> >
>> > - Dale "Comb-Over" Courtney (August 3, 2005)
>> >
>> >
>> >
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