[Vision2020] [OFF LIST] Quick Question
Glenn Schwaller
vpschwaller at gmail.com
Wed May 9 16:07:38 PDT 2007
Mr Hansen
Accountability can be a tough thing to find, and I agree with you that eight
days is totally irresponsible. Registration prior to release seems such a
no-brainer. Sigh . . .
Sorry I didn't do well with your sarcasm - I understand your frustration,
and those at P&P have the same level of frustration, if not more. There are
only two full time probation and parole officers in the Moscow district
sharing in the neighborhood of 60+ probationer / parolees. Many of them are
required to check in weekly, if not daily, and all check in (personal
face-to-face check in's) every month. Given the budget, time, legislature
etc there is only so much they can do. I guess the best the public can do
is to review the sex offender postings with their kids on a monthly basis so
they can see their faces and know where they live.
Thanks
Schwaller
On 5/9/07, Tom Hansen <idahotom at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mr. Schwaller -
>
> I wasn't accusing or suggesting that you were offering excuses. I was
> simply demanding accountability.
>
> The eight-day requirement seems absolutely irresponsible. I would want
> ALL
> sex offenders registered PRIOR to release. This way, if for some
> bureaucratic red-tape reason the sex offender's registration is delayed,
> at
> least we will know where (s)he is.
>
> Until that discrepency is corrected, we will have to live with this
> eight-day "window". Sitler's eight days (according to my calendar)
> expires
> on Saturday (unless for another irresponsible reason the Registry takes
> weekends off).
>
> My reference to "when bars close" was basic sarcasm, intended to draw
> attention to the level of supervision being maintained by those in
> authority, nothing else.
>
> Concerning your implication that I am restricting my attention to members
> of
> Christ Church, isn't that a bit insignificant when the subject of our
> concerns is a Level 3 sex offender.
>
> Although this email is offlist, I will post it to V2020 this afternoon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Hansen
>
>
>
> >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Quick Question
> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:04:54 -0700
> >
> >Tom et al.
> >
> >I wasn't offering any excuses - I intended to state only what I did or
> did
> >not know. Here is the information I have from Idaho code Title 18-8307
> >Registration:
> >
> >The written notification shall be a form provided by the department
> >and approved by the attorney general and shall be signed by the
> defendant.
> >The
> >court shall retain one (1) copy, provide one (1) copy to the offender,
> and
> >submit one (1) copy to the central registry within three (3) working days
> >of
> >
> >release.
> >
> >(c) Within five (5) days of the mailing date of the notice, the offender
> > shall appear in person at the office of the sheriff with jurisdiction
> >for
> > the purpose of completing the registration process;
> >
> >So I guess Mr Sitler has 8 days to comply - don't know how weekends fit
> >into
> >that scheduling.
> >
> >As far as other concerns:
> >
> >"1) Does Sitler's employment entail customer service/interaction?"
> >
> >I don't know. P&P would.
> >
> >"2) Does Sitler's employment place him within proximity of children?"
> >
> >I don't know. Since his employer knows of his offense and has been
> >contacted by P&P, one would hope this would be monitored. There may be
> >strict limits on what distance "proximity" is, and any violation of this
> >would be a violation of his probation. This could result in the judge
> >imposing the original sentence (life in prison).
> >
> >"3) Is Sitler's employment (in any way, shape, form, or fashion)
> >affiliated
> >with child day care?"
> >
> >Highly unlikely: it is a felony as provided in section 18-8327, Idaho
> Code,
> >for an offender to accept employment in any day care center, group day
> care
> >facility or family day care home, as those terms are defined in chapter
> 11,
> >title 39, Idaho Code, or to be upon or to remain on the premises
> >of a day care center, group day care facility or family day care home
> while
> >children are present, other than to drop off or pick up the offender's
> >child or children.
> >
> >"Is this supervision being maintained 24/7 or only until the bars close?"
> >
> >I'm not sure what the "until the bars close" comment is meant to convey.
> >Are you asking if P&P officers are on the clock until the bars
> close? Are
> >you asking if it is "safe" outside until the bars close and Mr Sitler
> >leaves
> >one? I don't know all the details of Mr Sitler's probation, but going to
> a
> >bar is most assuredly NOT an option for him. If the tomandrodna site is
> >yours, you might check your own posting on Mr Sitler's crime and read the
> >probation documents.
> >
> >As part of his probation, Mr Sitler will be required to take polygraph
> >tests
> >as part of his treatment program, and quite possible for the duration of
> >his
> >probation. A "distressed" polygraph will result in an investigation by
> P&P
> >which could lead to a probation violation and and imposing of the
> original
> >sentence.
> >
> >I think we are all concerned. I think we all need to ask questions, and
> >get
> >as many answers as possible. I think we need to be concerned about 1)
> ALL
> >the predatory sex offenders in our community and not 2) only those
> >affiliated with Christ Church. One strikes of caution and concern; the
> >other of persecution.
> >
> >Schwaller
> >
> >"Be concerned. Be very concerned"
> > (with more apologies to Veronica Quaife)
> >
> >
> >On 5/9/07, Tom Hansen <idahotom at hotmail.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>As of 11:30 this morning (May 9, 2007), Steven J. Sitler is NOT listed
> on
> >>the Idaho Sex Offender Registry.
> >>
> >>Following Mr. Schwaller's fairly substantiated assumption that Sitler
> was
> >>released last Friday (May 4, 2007), why is he not listed on the sex
> >>offender
> >>registry?
> >>
> >>The excuse that "maybe the registry hasn't been updated yet" does not
> hold
> >>water and definitely should not relieve our community
> conscience. Perhaps
> >>Sitler shold have remained in jail until he is properly listed on the
> >>registry.
> >>
> >>Mr. Schwaller goes on to suggest that SItler is employed here in
> >>Moscow. I
> >>am not specificaly interested in where Sitler is working as much as:
> >>
> >>1) Does Sitler's employment entail customer service/interaction?
> >>
> >>2) Does Sitler's employment place him within proximity of children?
> >>
> >>3) Is Sitler's employment (in any way, shape, form, or fashion)
> >>affiliated
> >>with child day care?
> >>
> >>In most states question #3 would be considered ludicrous. In Idaho
> >>(thanks
> >>to our state legislature), it is a major concern.
> >>
> >>Mr. Schwaller further states that Sitler is being closely
> >>monitored/supervised. Is this supervision being maintained 24/7 or only
> >>until the bars close?
> >>
> >>Again, as I have mentioned earlier, this is NOT to be considered
> >>persecution
> >>on my part as it should be a major safety concern of our community.
> >>Although I do not have any children, I have friends who do have
> children.
> >>Their concerns are my concerns.
> >>
> >>Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>
> >>Tom Hansen
> >>Moscow, Idaho
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com >
> >> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Quick Question
> >> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:40:55 -0700
> >> >
> >> >Tom - I did post something last Saturday to the effect that the best
> to
> >>my
> >> >knowledge Mr Sitler is out under the supervision or Probation and
> >>Parole.
> >> >Due to time constraints, I was unable to attend the hearing on Friday
> >> >afternoon, but his car is no longer in the courthouse parking lot, so
> >>I'm
> >>
> >> >assuming he is out and about.
> >> >
> >> >To my knowledge he is still attending therapy in Clarkston and
> >>Pullman. I
> >> >suspect he is on a short leash as far as leaving Moscow (or at least
> >> >District 2) requiring him to notify P&P when he leaves and when he
> >>returns,
> >> >and that he is within the time constraints P&P may have placed on him
> >>for
> >> >traveling to and from his sessions.
> >> >
> >> >My understanding is that he is gainfully employed in the Moscow
> area. I
> >> >suspect if one is really interested in the details, one may call
> >>District
> >>2
> >> >P&P (208-883-3547) as a concerned citizen and see what information
> they
> >>can
> >> >give.
> >> >
> >> >Alternatively (or additionally) one could email Murph at the Daily
> News
> >>and
> >> >ask for a "what's the deal here?"
> >> >One can also go to:
> >> >www.isp.state.id.us/identification/*sex*_*offender*/public_access.html
> >> >and see if Mr Sitler has registered. I'm not sure how long he has to
> >> >register once he's out, or how often the list is updated.
> >> >
> >> >I find it a bit curious that there has been a considerable amount of
> >> >"traffic" concerning Mr Sitler and Mr Wight, particularly considering
> >>that
> >> >2
> >> >other sex offenders have been released into the Moscow area in the
> last
> >>2
> >> >weeks, and no one has asked about those particular individuals . . .
> >> >
> >> >Hmmmmm . . .
> >> >
> >> >Schwaller
> >> >
> >> >"Once upon a time there were cannibals; there are no cannibals any
> more"
> >> > Mark Knopfler
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 5/8/07, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Quick question: Is anybody aware of the results of last Friday's
> >>review
> >> >>hearing concerning:
> >> >>
> >> >>Steven J. Sitler
> >> >> http://www.tomandrodna.com/CR_2005_02027/
> >> >>
> >> >>He has completed the one-year incarceration portion of his
> >>sentence. The
> >> >>review hearing was to determine if he should (or should not) be
> >>released
> >>
> >> >>on
> >> >>probation.
> >> >>
> >> >>As Steven Sitler is a Level 3 sex offender, this should not be
> regarded
> >>as
> >> >>
> >> >>persecution on my part, but a major safety concern for the community
> as
> >>a
> >> >>whole.
> >> >>
> >> >>I have browsed both the Lewiston Tribune and the Moscow-Pullman Daily
> >>News
> >> >>for the past couple days. NOT A WORD.
> >> >>
> >> >>However, it should be noted that the Moscow-Pullman Daily News did
> >>report
> >> >>on
> >> >>NSA's commencement "book signing". Is the Daily News simply unaware
> of
> >> >>Sitler's hearing, or were they simply blind-sided and swamped by the
> >>NSA
> >> >>book signing?
> >> >>
> >> >>Tom Hansen
> >> >>Moscow, Idaho
> >> >>
> >> >>"Uh, how about a 1-strike law. Death doesn't seem too extreme for a
> >> >>Level-3
> >> >>sex offender."
> >> >>
> >> >>- Dale "Comb-Over" Courtney (August 3, 2005)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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