[Vision2020] Ga$oline Price$

Thu May 3 01:36:27 PDT 2007

Mark et. al.

Assuming those doing long term planning for securing world oil resources
have done their homework, which they have, and they are arrogant enough to
believe that the USA and it allies, especially Great Britain, should control
these resources, via military force if necessary, it does not matter what
are the current dominant sources of oil.  Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Iran,
and other states in this region, remain the most oil rich area of the world,
given current cheaply recoverable oil.  For long term planning to control
this oil rich region, meaning fifty to one hundred years out, the fact that
oil is now coming from other oil rich states is not critical.  The big oil
prize remains the Middle East.  I will not list the billions of barrels of
oil resources that indicate the Middle East remains the long term dominant
source of easily recoverable oil, because everyone knows this.  Canada is a
huge oil resource, now second to Saudi Arabia in listed recoverable oil, but
still does not equal the oil resources of the Middle East, even when
combined with Mexico and Venezuela, and Canada's oil sands are not as cheap
to develop as many Middle East oil sources.  Iraq's reserves are huge and of
high quality.  Cost is king.  That is why coal sourced electricity,
to switch to the specter of another fossil fuel energy source, of which the
USA has the largest reserves of any nation, will remain dominant over all
other Green sources, till mitigating factors stop coal's cheap energy
expansion, whether it be via mandated CO2 sequestration, CO2 penalties
or stringent controls over other atmospheric or environmental damages from
coal.  Have you seen the demolished mountains in the Appalachians do to coal
mining?  Looks like they were nuked!

We can eventually look forward, however, to the raping of Wyoming, Utah and
Colorado, to develop the oil shale deposits in the USA, though this
currently is a more expensive and environmentally controversial process,
assuming we do not find other technologies or sources of energy to fuel our
economy and lifestyle, given the huge amount of oil to be extracted, and the
obvious blindness of the human race to the foolishness of our out of control
domination of the world of nature.  The chart below shows the USA has a huge
oil shale potential (can you say "Global Warming?"  I knew you could!):

Read on, fearless reader, in our Brave New World, at United States "Proved
Recoverable Reserves" for oil shale.  Do I read this chart wrong when it
seems to indicate 60,000 to 80,000 million tons of recoverable oil from oil
shale in the USA?  I must be misinterpreting this data!  Or it must be
wrong!

http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/publications/reports/ser/shale/shale.asp

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Table 3.1 Oil shale: resources, reserves and production at end-1999*

*Excel File *<http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/publications/reports/ser/shale/excel_files/shale_3_1.xls>
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Recovery method*
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Proved amount in place*
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Proved recoverable reserves*
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Average yield of oil*
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Estimated additional reserves*
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Production in 1999*
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million tonnes (shale)*
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million tonnes (oil)*
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kg oil/ tonne*
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million tonnes (oil)*
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thousand tonnes (oil)*
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Africa*
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Morocco

surface

12 300

500

50 - 64

5 400

South Africa

in-situ

73

10

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North America*
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United States of America

surface

3 340 000

60 000 - 80 000

57

62 000

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South America*
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Brazil

surface

70

9 646

195
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Asia*
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Thailand

in-situ

18 668

810

50

Turkey

surface

1 640

269

56

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Europe*
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Albania

surface

6

5

Estonia

surface

590

167

151

in-situ

910

Ukraine

in-situ

2 674

300

126

6 200

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Middle East*
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Israel

surface

15 360

600

62

Jordan

surface

40 000

4 000

100

20 000

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Oceania*
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Australia

in-situ

32 400

1 725

53

35 260

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Notes:*

1. Generally the data shown above are those reported by WEC Member
Committees in 2000/2001
 2. The data for Albania, Brazil, Israel, South Africa and Ukraine are those
reported by WEC Member Committees for SER 1998 3. The data thus constitute a
sample, reflecting the information available in particular countries: they
should not be considered as complete, or necessarily representative of the
situation in each region. For this reason, regional and global aggregates
have not been computed

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Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett

On 5/2/07, Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com> wrote:
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> It's easy to jump into the Middle-East oil nations are the cause of
> everything from empire building to gas prices debate, but it misses a
> couple of key factors regarding oil supply and price. First, of the
> following list of countries, pick the first, second and third largest
> exporters of oil to the US:
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> Venezuela,
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> Mexico
> Canada
> Russia
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> If you picked, in order, Canada/Mexico/Saudi Arabia you are up on
> current oil markets. Canada has moved into number one exporter with
> the massive development of the Alberta oil sands. Almost all the oil
> produced is sent to the U.S. Mexico is next with Saudi Arabia a
> distinctly distant third place. (The environmental damage being done
> to mine the oil sands is enormous: huge open pit mines in the
> arboreal forest. If you have google earth on your computer, search
> for Ft. McMurray, Alberta and you'll see the mines just north of
> town.)
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> Another factor to keep in mind when discussing oil prices is the
> effect of the oil futures market on real price. Futures markets are
> fine when there is relatively free competition in the market place
> but when you have de facto monopolies, such as in the oil world, they
> can be manipulated.
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> At 3:34 PM -0700 5/2/07, KRFP wrote:
> >Oh, of course, we have to maintain the empire's presence in the
> >vital region.  Especially since Rumsfeld signed the closing orders
> >for our permanent bases in Saudi Arabia (on Sept 12th or 13th, 2001,
> >although it wasn't announced until 2003). Of course any relation to
> >this being exactly what Bin Laden was demanding is purely
> >coincidental.
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> >Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
> >>There might be a reduction in numbers at that point, but I bet the
> >>permanent bases will stay.  There is no exit strategy because there
> >>never was an exit strategy, nor was one desired by the people who
> >>brought us this war.
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> >>Sunil
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> >>>From: KRFP <krfp at radiofreemoscow.org>
> >>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ga$oline Price$
> >>>Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 12:59:39 -0700
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> >>>A fitting testimony to the fourth anniversary of Bush's infamous
> >>>"Mission Accomplished" speech.
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> >>>Operation Iraqi Liberation (O.I.L.) has been and will continue to be
> >>>about the control of their oil.  It will not end until the Iraqi
> >>>parliament sign away their oil rights to Exxon - BP- et.al.   Then we
> >>>will see a cheery exit staged for us by whatever administration is "in
> >>>charge".
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>[Disclaimer: this is a personal post I am making using the station's
> >>>account, my views do not necessarily reflect those of the station,
> >>>though in this case they probably do.]
> >>>
> >>>Ellen Roskovich wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>*I just now walked in the door after visiting the gas station.  What a
> >>>>shock!  I was kicking myself for not topping off last Friday when it
> >>>>was still under $3.00.  Isn't anyone mad as hell yet?  The price of
> >>>>gas keeps climbing up and that's going to drive the price of all
> >>>>commodities through the ceiling.  We rely on trucks to get goods to
> >>>>the marketplace. . . you're going to see prices on the shelves
> >>>>climb even more than they have in the past couple weeks.*
> >>>>
> >>>>*Ellen Roskovich  *
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