[Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Thu Mar 29 18:32:38 PDT 2007


The Mass. DMV is the most evil, inflexible, obdurate organization on the face of this or any other planet. They make the KGB seem warm and cuddly. They make the Borg seem open to friendly negotiation and persuasion. They are always right and should you dare to disagree, they will make your life hell until you relent and admit to their all knowing superiority and abase yourself to their grinning, sadistic satisfaction. Their  official motto: All hail Mass. DMV (or we'll kill you) Please don't get me started. In fact their probably monitoring this discussion board and making plans to kidnap and torture one of my pets for having the temerity to say something negative about their little cabal. I've got to go, there's someone at my front door...

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Rumelhart 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com


  g.,

  We don't agree on a lot of things, but I have to say that I agree with pretty much everything you said here.  The Archies thing was a misunderstanding and the proprietors shouldn't be raked over the coals for it.  I don't smoke, and prefer smoke-free restraunts and bars, but I don't think I have the right to force anybody to agree to that.  I hate group-think, and look to eradicate it where I can. 

  However, I don't understand the reference to the Massachusetts DMV.  What am I missing?

  Paul

  g. crabtree wrote: 
    Either become a warm, kind, caring, evolved passenger on spaceship Moscow, sensitive to the health and emotional welfare of your fellow travelers or we'll destroy your reputation, confiscate your ability to feed your family and drive your unfeeling ass out of town.

    Why do certain, contestably well intentioned, people feel the need to band together to bend others to their will? When the disabled fellow and his person felt that they weren't being made as welcome as they would have liked at one restaurant they opted to go to another. Good call! Why not have left it at that? Why the overwhelming need to be vindictive, organize a mob to punish the first establishments owner, force them, by God, to come around to their way of thinking, even though the disruption was almost certainly the result of a misunderstanding or a momentary lapse on the part of Mr. Johnson and/or the caregiver/aid/friend/whatever?

    To a lesser extent, the same applies to Bucer's. They have a smoking room. You may not like it but you are not required to frequent the establishment. Choose one of the many other businesses that are more to your liking and leave Bucer's to cater to the clientele that appreciates the increasingly rare opportunity to enjoy a smoke with like minded patrons. Attempting to pass legislation to force a private property owner to comply with your desires under penalty of loss of livelihood is meddling in another's bailiwick writ large. Lets face it, the likelihood that Mr. Rigby or Mr. Carscallen are feeling seriously neglected or that their wellbeing is negatively impacted by not being able to down yet another high priced cup of joe is doubtful. Drink in Pullman if it's more to your liking, don't deprive others into having no place to gather, all to satisfy your personal whim.

    Since when does the majority get to dictate their way of thinking on all others, in all matters? Is George Orwell and Aldous Huxley no longer read as part of a "public education?" I guess the idea that someone might want to go their own way has become unfathomable and group think the order of the day. Liberal Moscow is turning into the Massachusetts DMV.

    g


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Dan Carscallen" <areaman at moscow.com>
    To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
    Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:14 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com


    > Tim posts a link to an article and says:
    > "Great job Idaho Legislature.  Now if Moscow could only get Bucer's
    > Coffee House to follow the rules, the world would be a better place."
    > 
    > Not sure what anything going on in Bucer's has to do with bowling alleys
    > and smoking . . .
    > 
    > BUT, I'm all for adopting the whole "no smoking" deal like Washington.
    > Having a beer in a Pullman pub is a much more pleasant experience.
    > 
    > DC
    > 
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