[Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com

[Paul Rumelhart]

g.,

We don't agree on a lot of things, but I have to say that I agree with 
pretty much everything you said here.  The Archies thing was a 
misunderstanding and the proprietors shouldn't be raked over the coals 
for it.  I don't smoke, and prefer smoke-free restraunts and bars, but I 
don't think I have the right to force anybody to agree to that.  I hate 
group-think, and look to eradicate it where I can.

However, I don't understand the reference to the Massachusetts DMV.  
What am I missing?

Paul

g. crabtree wrote:

> Either become a warm, kind, caring, evolved passenger on spaceship 
> Moscow, sensitive to the health and emotional welfare of your fellow 
> travelers or we'll destroy your reputation, confiscate your ability to 
> feed your family and drive your unfeeling ass out of town.
>  
> Why do certain, contestably well intentioned, people feel the need to 
> band together to bend others to their will? When the disabled fellow 
> and his person felt that they weren't being made as welcome as they 
> would have liked at one restaurant they opted to go to another. Good 
> call! Why not have left it at that? Why the overwhelming need to be 
> vindictive, organize a mob to punish the first establishments owner, 
> force them, by God, to come around to their way of thinking, even 
> though the disruption was almost certainly the result of a 
> misunderstanding or a momentary lapse on the part of Mr. Johnson 
> and/or the caregiver/aid/friend/whatever?
>  
> To a lesser extent, the same applies to Bucer's. They have a smoking 
> room. You may not like it but you are not required to frequent the 
> establishment. Choose one of the many other businesses that are more 
> to your liking and leave Bucer's to cater to the clientele that 
> appreciates the increasingly rare opportunity to enjoy a smoke with 
> like minded patrons. Attempting to pass legislation to force a private 
> property owner to comply with your desires under penalty of loss of 
> livelihood is meddling in another's bailiwick writ large. Lets face 
> it, the likelihood that Mr. Rigby or Mr. Carscallen are feeling 
> seriously neglected or that their wellbeing is negatively impacted by 
> not being able to down yet another high priced cup of joe is doubtful. 
> Drink in Pullman if it's more to your liking, don't deprive others 
> into having no place to gather, all to satisfy your personal whim.
>  
> Since when does the majority get to dictate their way of thinking on 
> all others, in all matters? Is George Orwell and Aldous Huxley no 
> longer read as part of a "public education?" I guess the idea that 
> someone might want to go their own way has become unfathomable and 
> group think the order of the day. Liberal Moscow is turning into the 
> Massachusetts DMV.
>  
> g
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Carscallen" <areaman at moscow.com <mailto:areaman at moscow.com>>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An article from IdahoStatesman.com
>
> > Tim posts a link to an article and says:
> > "Great job Idaho Legislature.  Now if Moscow could only get Bucer's
> > Coffee House to follow the rules, the world would be a better place."
> >
> > Not sure what anything going on in Bucer's has to do with bowling alleys
> > and smoking . . .
> >
> > BUT, I'm all for adopting the whole "no smoking" deal like Washington.
> > Having a beer in a Pullman pub is a much more pleasant experience.
> >
> > DC
> >
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