[Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings, so what?

[Tom Hansen]

Now, now, ToeKnee -

Go back and re-read my posting.  I could substantiate my claims with Senate 
and House reports, coupled with audio recordings of our favorite Attorney 
General.  But, then, why?  You will only twist and mangle it to fit your 
agenda.

I couid post comments from various senators and congressmen which refer to 
the firings as "idiocy", "ignorant", and "self-serving" (and those are from 
Republicans).  But, again, let's simply let our government work this out, 
ok?

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho


>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings, so what?
>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:25:38 -0700
>
>Yet, tom, your "history lesson" is irrelevant.  Bush has the authority to
>dismiss these attorneys if he sees fit.  They pursued the 
>democrat/socialist
>agenda and were let go.
>
>As they should have been.
>
>Cope with it.
>
>-T
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:29 AM
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings
>
>
> > Yet, ToeKnee, a short quick history lesson -
> >
> > George Bush himself appointed these very same US attorneys back in 2001.
> > And now that they are no longer considered "loyal Bushies" [Karl Rove's
> > words, not mine] because they failed to pursue prosecution of Democrat
> > candidates back in November, they are shown the door.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "As more and more heathens 'choose' to not have children the number of
> > Godly
> > souls will increase. If the number of Christian births out number the
> > number
> > of Islamic births the battle will be over in 3 or 4 generations."
> >
> > - Doug "No-Clue" Farris (March 10, 2007)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony [mailto:tonytime at clearwire.net]
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:02 AM
> > To: Tom Hansen
> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings
> >
> > Tom, a sitting president has every right to fire and replace judges whom
> > he
> > deems to be incompetent or who fail to adhere to his judicial 
>perspective.
> > Bush is only doing his job just as every president before him.  No 
>story,
> > no
> >
> > cause for alarm or hysteria.
> >
> > Get some rest.
> >
> > -Tony
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:17 AM
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings
> >
> >
> >> >From today's (March 16, 2007) Spokesman Review -
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Rove, Gonzalez linked to firings
> >> E-mail refers to 'loyal Bushies'
> >>
> >> Ron Hutcheson and Margaret Talev
> >> McClatchy
> >> March 16, 2007
> >>
> >> WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales faced more pressure to
> >> resign
> >> Thursday as new evidence suggested that he and presidential adviser 
>Karl
> >> Rove played bigger roles in developing plans to fire U.S. attorneys 
>than
> >> they've acknowledged.
> >>
> >> Rove has been President Bush's chief political adviser since Bush's 
>first
> >> campaign for Texas governor, and the latest developments angered 
>members
> >> of
> >> Congress and created new credibility problems for the administration.
> >>
> >> Democrats cited Rove's involvement as more evidence that the firings 
>were
> >> intended to purge prosecutors who refused to let partisan politics
> >> influence
> >> criminal investigations.
> >>
> >> Administration e-mails from early January 2005 show that Rove and
> >> Gonzales
> >> were directly involved in the initial planning to oust prosecutors 
>who'd
> >> fallen out of favor. Recounting in an e-mail a conversation he'd had 
>with
> >> Gonzales, aide Kyle Sampson said that they'd decided to replace 15
> >> percent
> >> to 20 percent of the 93 U.S. attorneys while retaining those who "are
> >> doing
> >> a great job, are loyal Bushies, etc."
> >>
> >> At the time, Gonzales was serving as White House counsel while awaiting
> >> confirmation to become attorney general. Sampson became his chief of
> >> staff
> >> at the Justice Department and continued to oversee planning for a mass
> >> firing. Sampson resigned earlier this week amid the growing controversy
> >> over
> >> the dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys last year.
> >>
> >> An e-mail from another White House aide said that Rove wanted to know
> >> "how
> >> we planned to proceed regarding US Attorneys, whether we were going to
> >> allow
> >> all to stay, request resignations from all and accept only some of 
>them,
> >> or
> >> selectively replace them, etc."
> >>
> >> The e-mails, which the Justice Department released after the contents
> >> were
> >> leaked to ABC News, call into question Gonzales' assertion that he was
> >> essentially in the dark about the plans to dismiss federal prosecutors.
> >>
> >> Despite expressions of support from Bush, prominent Republicans openly
> >> discussed the possibility of Gonzales' resignation. On Capitol Hill,
> >> House
> >> of Representatives and Senate committees pressed ahead with their
> >> investigations into the firings.
> >>
> >> One Republican, Sen. John Sununu of New Hampshire, has publicly urged
> >> President Bush to fire Gonzales. Still another GOP lawmaker, this one 
>in
> >> the
> >> House and not ready to speak out publicly, said Thursday he planned to
> >> call
> >> next week for Gonzales to step down. And Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., 
>said
> >> Thursday that Gonzales had lost the confidence of Congress.
> >>
> >> While Gonzales prepared to defend himself, the Senate Judiciary 
>Committee
> >> laid the groundwork to subpoena top officials from the Justice 
>Department
> >> and the White House if necessary.
> >>
> >> The White House downplayed the significance of the e-mails but backed
> >> away
> >> from earlier statements that the plan to fire all 93 U.S. attorneys
> >> originated with former White House counsel Harriet Miers and was 
>swiftly
> >> rejected by Gonzales and Rove.
> >>
> >> "I do not have the specific answer for you as to whose idea it was," 
>said
> >> White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.
> >>
> >> The Justice Department issued a statement saying that Gonzales "has no
> >> recollection of any plan or discussion to replace U.S. attorneys while 
>he
> >> was still White House counsel."
> >>
> >> In a speech earlier in the day at Troy University in Troy, Ala., Rove
> >> dismissed the controversy as "a lot of politics" and said the U.S.
> >> attorney
> >> firings were proper.
> >>
> >> "We're at a point where people are playing politics with it, and that's
> >> fine," Rove said.
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Generally, as new presidents assume office they replace US attorneys
> >> either
> >> thru attrition (allowing contracts to expire) or termination.  Although
> >> it
> >> is true that Bill Clinton had fired all 93 US attorneys, this had
> >> occurred
> >> during the early days of his first term.  George Bush is half way 
>through
> >> his second term.
> >>
> >> Another footnote:  It appears that Karl Rove's name is being linked to
> >> more
> >> and more questionable activities.  When will he be held accountable?
> >>
> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>
> >> Tom Hansen
> >> Moscow, Idaho
> >>
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> >>
> >> "A bad cause will ever be supported by bad means and bad men."
> >>
> >> - Thomas Paine (English Writer, 1737-1809)
> >>
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