[Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings, so what?

Tony tonytime at clearwire.net
Sat Mar 17 07:25:38 PDT 2007


Yet, tom, your "history lesson" is irrelevant.  Bush has the authority to 
dismiss these attorneys if he sees fit.  They pursued the democrat/socialist 
agenda and were let go.

As they should have been.

Cope with it.

-T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings


> Yet, ToeKnee, a short quick history lesson -
>
> George Bush himself appointed these very same US attorneys back in 2001.
> And now that they are no longer considered "loyal Bushies" [Karl Rove's
> words, not mine] because they failed to pursue prosecution of Democrat
> candidates back in November, they are shown the door.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "As more and more heathens 'choose' to not have children the number of 
> Godly
> souls will increase. If the number of Christian births out number the 
> number
> of Islamic births the battle will be over in 3 or 4 generations."
>
> - Doug "No-Clue" Farris (March 10, 2007)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony [mailto:tonytime at clearwire.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:02 AM
> To: Tom Hansen
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings
>
> Tom, a sitting president has every right to fire and replace judges whom 
> he
> deems to be incompetent or who fail to adhere to his judicial perspective.
> Bush is only doing his job just as every president before him.  No story, 
> no
>
> cause for alarm or hysteria.
>
> Get some rest.
>
> -Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:17 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Rove, Gonzalez Linked to Firings
>
>
>> >From today's (March 16, 2007) Spokesman Review -
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Rove, Gonzalez linked to firings
>> E-mail refers to 'loyal Bushies'
>>
>> Ron Hutcheson and Margaret Talev
>> McClatchy
>> March 16, 2007
>>
>> WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales faced more pressure to
>> resign
>> Thursday as new evidence suggested that he and presidential adviser Karl
>> Rove played bigger roles in developing plans to fire U.S. attorneys than
>> they've acknowledged.
>>
>> Rove has been President Bush's chief political adviser since Bush's first
>> campaign for Texas governor, and the latest developments angered members
>> of
>> Congress and created new credibility problems for the administration.
>>
>> Democrats cited Rove's involvement as more evidence that the firings were
>> intended to purge prosecutors who refused to let partisan politics
>> influence
>> criminal investigations.
>>
>> Administration e-mails from early January 2005 show that Rove and 
>> Gonzales
>> were directly involved in the initial planning to oust prosecutors who'd
>> fallen out of favor. Recounting in an e-mail a conversation he'd had with
>> Gonzales, aide Kyle Sampson said that they'd decided to replace 15 
>> percent
>> to 20 percent of the 93 U.S. attorneys while retaining those who "are
>> doing
>> a great job, are loyal Bushies, etc."
>>
>> At the time, Gonzales was serving as White House counsel while awaiting
>> confirmation to become attorney general. Sampson became his chief of 
>> staff
>> at the Justice Department and continued to oversee planning for a mass
>> firing. Sampson resigned earlier this week amid the growing controversy
>> over
>> the dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys last year.
>>
>> An e-mail from another White House aide said that Rove wanted to know 
>> "how
>> we planned to proceed regarding US Attorneys, whether we were going to
>> allow
>> all to stay, request resignations from all and accept only some of them,
>> or
>> selectively replace them, etc."
>>
>> The e-mails, which the Justice Department released after the contents 
>> were
>> leaked to ABC News, call into question Gonzales' assertion that he was
>> essentially in the dark about the plans to dismiss federal prosecutors.
>>
>> Despite expressions of support from Bush, prominent Republicans openly
>> discussed the possibility of Gonzales' resignation. On Capitol Hill, 
>> House
>> of Representatives and Senate committees pressed ahead with their
>> investigations into the firings.
>>
>> One Republican, Sen. John Sununu of New Hampshire, has publicly urged
>> President Bush to fire Gonzales. Still another GOP lawmaker, this one in
>> the
>> House and not ready to speak out publicly, said Thursday he planned to
>> call
>> next week for Gonzales to step down. And Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., said
>> Thursday that Gonzales had lost the confidence of Congress.
>>
>> While Gonzales prepared to defend himself, the Senate Judiciary Committee
>> laid the groundwork to subpoena top officials from the Justice Department
>> and the White House if necessary.
>>
>> The White House downplayed the significance of the e-mails but backed 
>> away
>> from earlier statements that the plan to fire all 93 U.S. attorneys
>> originated with former White House counsel Harriet Miers and was swiftly
>> rejected by Gonzales and Rove.
>>
>> "I do not have the specific answer for you as to whose idea it was," said
>> White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.
>>
>> The Justice Department issued a statement saying that Gonzales "has no
>> recollection of any plan or discussion to replace U.S. attorneys while he
>> was still White House counsel."
>>
>> In a speech earlier in the day at Troy University in Troy, Ala., Rove
>> dismissed the controversy as "a lot of politics" and said the U.S.
>> attorney
>> firings were proper.
>>
>> "We're at a point where people are playing politics with it, and that's
>> fine," Rove said.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Generally, as new presidents assume office they replace US attorneys
>> either
>> thru attrition (allowing contracts to expire) or termination.  Although 
>> it
>> is true that Bill Clinton had fired all 93 US attorneys, this had 
>> occurred
>> during the early days of his first term.  George Bush is half way through
>> his second term.
>>
>> Another footnote:  It appears that Karl Rove's name is being linked to
>> more
>> and more questionable activities.  When will he be held accountable?
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
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