[Vision2020] Childish beliefs

david sarff davesway at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 16 17:36:03 PDT 2007


Hi Roger.
Tim Bell comes up a lot. He is  presently being called out as a liar about 
his credentials and experience. He has sued for liable and there is an 
active case involved. I have been keeping track of and will write something 
about it after the results are in.
Dave

>Ralph
>
>It is interesting that the left has to resort to  name calling and 
>belittling people that they disagree with. Childish, global Warming 
>Denyers. Not that some on the right are any better, Re" Michael Savage 
>"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder".
>I would make some comments on the letter that you posted.
>Global Warming- There are several scientists who disagree with the view 
>that man is the cause of global warming.
>Habibllo Abdussamattov, Head of Space Reasearch at St Petersburg's Pulkovo 
>Astronomical Observatory in Russia; Timothy Bell, former professor at the 
>University of Winnipeg in Canada; Richard Linzen professor of Atmospheric 
>Science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Nigel Calder, former 
>editor of New Scientist. Bell and Lindzen have lost funding because of 
>there views. Calder said " Governments are trying to achieve unanimity by 
>stifling any scientist who disagrees. Einstein could not have got funding 
>under the present system"  Dr. Hansen receives a lot of federal funding for 
>his research. Global warming is occurring, the cause in unclear. Anyone who 
>wants to be objective should present Channel 4's "The Global Warming 
>Swindle" along with Al Gore's "The Inconvenient Truth"
>
>Weapons of mass destruction- I am not a big fan of Bush and no weapons of 
>mass destruction were found. But that does not mean that there hadn't been 
>amy there. Just what do you think think Hussein used on the Kurds.
>
>Creationist- I do not agree with fundamentalists on evolution, but I would 
>not call them childish.
>
>Roger
>
>-----Original message-----
>From: Ralph Nielsen nielsen at uidaho.edu
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:06:53 -0700
>To: Vision 2020 Vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Childish beliefs
>
> > A letter from a retired NASA scientist, who is a graduate of WSU.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > Letters to the Editor
> > The Idaho Statesman
> > Edition Date: 03/15/07
> >
> > Bush supporters
> >
> > Have you noticed how much Bush supporters and religious
> > fundamentalists (who are often the same people) depend upon fiction
> > to support their childish beliefs?
> >
> > Consider global warming. Several local letter writers have cited the
> > book "State of Fear" as their basis for not accepting the truth of
> > global warming. This is a novel not a work of science!
> >
> > Supporters of Bush's war for oil in Iraq relied on the fiction that
> > Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
> >
> > Creationists rely for support on the anti-science rantings of
> > uneducated theocrats who want to take us back to the Dark Ages when
> > religion ruled the Western World and people were forbidden to think
> > on penalty of death.
> >
> > Perhaps Bush supporters and religious fundamentalists ("fundies")
> > should heed the words of the apostle Paul in his first epistle to the
> > Thessalonians: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good" (5:21).
> >
> > Once the fundies decide to rely on proof instead of blind belief they
> > will see the truth of global warming; the truth about Bush's lies
> > regarding Iraq; and the truth about evolution.
> >
> > If Americans want to save their souls from eternal damnation they
> > will not believe fundamentalist lies (Rev. 21:8).
> >
> > Gary L. Bennett, Emmett
> >
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